Thanks crb but thats not quite what i meant.
Bill thats what i was looking for so basicly if im gradually accelerating the timing will be less adjusted during shift points by the pcm compared to if i was full throttle?
Does this apply to say going up hill or down hill in both equations? Cus i imagine more load= more torque needed going up hill= more retard? If this makes sense lol
Edit: What im getting at is i wont really see any kr when i first get my car to operating temp and start gunning around. When i have been driving the car awhile and my trans temp get up to say 180-200 i will start seeing knock. That knock will raise further when going up hill.
Is this due to the added friction in the trans from being so hot? Causing more load on the engine, and causing more torque needed from the engine because of?