Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
Nick, the funny thing here is it's you that are the liar. I haven't said a thing about you that wasn't 100% true and accurate.

You've suggested you know about knock and you don't appear to...at all. There is no such thing as false knock, it's a myth and a ghost that some folks use to explain why they can't correct a knock issue.

"The PCM contains integrated Knock Sensor (KS) Diagnostic Circuitry. Input signals from the knock sensors are used to detect engine detonation, allowing the PCM to retard ignition control (IC) spark timing based on the amplitude and frequency of the KS signal being received. The knock sensors produce an AC signal under all engine operating conditions. The PCM calculates an average voltage of each knock sensor's signal and takes instantaneous signal voltage readings. The PCM uses the instantaneous signal voltage readings to determine the state of the Knock Sensor Circuitry. If the Knock Sensor System is operating normally, the PCM should monitor instantaneous KS signal voltage readings varying outside a voltage range above and below the calculated average voltage, as shown in the normal knock sensor figure."

Now that you've learned about the knock sensor a bit. It's time to google further. I am willing to provide proof or at learn further. Found very little backing up kr being induced at the shift. Although again there are quite a few guys speaking about it.

Jared (had a GT500 blower on his car) http://idahoclub3800.com/viewtopic.p...b7d78c4b7dcc88
Not even much about it.

I've read quite a bit and found a few things that support the understanding I had and a few that contradict it. I am a stand up, honest guy, which is why I post this information. Reading up more in the FSM and ... would you believe it looks like you are wrong? Damn shame you won't post anything that proves it out.
All you've provided is a quote of how a knock sensor operates, and then a bunch of nonsense about how guys are talking about it, with no actual links to articles (like I provided) or data. You've provided nothing that proves your position that false knock is a ghost, and you've provided nothing to refute that KR is induced at the shifts as a measure of torque management. At this point, I have no idea how anyone has any sort of respect for you, or how you have any credibility what-so-ever. You've argued against well known and established positions in the 3800 community. We all know that cars can show false knock, and we all know that KR is not torque management. These are simple, novice concepts that even beginners are well aware of.

Your lies about me are another attempt to smear my good reputation as a knowledgable and informed member of the community. Why you hold such a grudge against me, I'll never know. What I do know is that I'll continue to help people of this community understand real and factual information regarding our platform. This is not about who's right or wrong... this is someone who is arguing against every knowledgable 3800 guy before him, including vendors, PRJ, and current gurus. Why you chose to argue such a basic, proven, and known idea is totally beyond me.

Once again, in case any of you are confused.
False knock is real (lol)
Torque management does not manifest itself as KR.

These are not debatable facts... they are just that, facts.
Anyone who takes a position that is opposite of these facts does not possess the knowledge of even beginner 3800 enthusiasts.

I'm happy to have cleared this up for all of you.