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Did mine purely for looks knowing function was no advantage other than a slight flow increase by removing stock box and corrugated tubing which unfortunately is offset by the added heat introduced from the engine compartment... Pick your poison!
The HISssss and Whineeee are where it's at, lolz
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i don't care about the looks or the sound. i just wanna do what ever makes the engine happy. i guess i'm gonna have to find out for myself since the opinions differ so much. experimenting costs money.
i did. read every post. as i said , i seen a bunch of different opinions and people discrediting the dyno data. you'd think for as long as these engines have been around that by now, someone would have solid indisputable evidence to put the debate to rest. i'm just gonna slap a 9 inch cone on a piece of pvc and see what happens .
k Bro. It's all opinion based, just like everything when it comes to modding a vehicle.
- Some people prefer to gut the air box to keep the stock look but a little better efficiency.
- Some people just do it to hear the whine of the blower and slap a filter on the TB because they give no sh1ts.
- Some people put some PVC piping or some kind of "intake tubing" for a little neater look, but still budget friendly.
- Some people spend the coin and get a "True CAI" with a box, mainly just for looks, as a dyno sheet has shown there is absolutely zero gain between a CAI and HAI since the Eaton Blower is just a massive heat pump anyways.
Opinions are typically going to always differ between people. Welcome to life.
Just choose whatever floats your boat and go with it. Not that difficult.
Just to add on this a slight caveat, since this is a FI (forced induction) car, you just want to get the air in and out as efficiently as possible, HAI or CAI will work, the real part to focus on is cooling down the air AFTER it is brought in and compressed through the supercharger, if you can get the most amount of air the blower will handle and then cool it BEFORE entering the Combustion chamber then you have made efficient use of your blower. Same concept with a turbo and intercooler, most of the reason a lot of guys I know run screens on their turbos and not filters.
Slight edit, I would say if you could also cool the air inside the blower that would be even better. Just the little things to consider.
Last edited by MyLittlePony; 04-14-2015 at 10:20 AM.
I built mine for function, the blower is working to get more air in, I am working to make that process as efficient as possible, then looking to do a heat exchanger for it to cool it, now I still need to build a box around the intake but it is worth while to allow the engine to breathe as much as possible. I ordere a 45 degree silicone elbow, a 4" piece of 4" diameter airaid intake tube and a K&n filter then put the IAT in the 45 degree elbow. It is not pretty but it works.
But the OP wanted to know about intake setups. So I answered his questions.
Obviously an intercooler is going to yield you way more benefits than an intake. What kind of intake you have with these cars, doesn't really matter.
Now if we're talking about cooling the air post-blower, that's a completely different topic.
actually i just wanted to know if it was safe / beneficial , to just clamp a cone directly to the throttle body as some people suggest. i've already read the cold air vs hot air debates . my question was, is a length of tubing between the TB and the filter necessary . some seem to think that it's not.
Here's your answer:
Do you NEED some kind of "tubing" between the filter and Throttle Body? No. Put a cone on the throttle body and clamp it down. Basically, put the IAT Sensor in the filter and leave it hanging in there. Personally, I do not prefer this way, because I feel like it looks cheap.
I like to have some kind of tubing between the filter and TB because I think it looks better and it gives me a spot to drill a hole to put the IAT sensor in properly.
Like I already stated, whatever you want, go for it. Want some tubing? Buy some. Want to slap a filter on the TB? Go for it. It's just what you prefer. Neither way is wrong.
End debate/conversation/thread.
I don't get why people keep citing the dyno thread as conclusive proof that CAI vs. HAI doesn't make a difference.
Of course the car will make roughly the same power with an open cone versus a Thrasher box or other CAI setup – because the tune remained the same during all pulls. While using a CAI, the owner of the car failed to re-tune his car and add more timing to take advantage of the lower IAT… of course he’s not going to make any more power.
I think the big problem with this is the way the M90 efficiency really is. Sure it crams in air...and colder air is better...but it's still going to heat it to umpteen bazillion degrees because that's how it works. So getting 10 degree cooler air through the blower is still going to be umpteen bazillion degrees...just maybe a tad cooler.
^not sure if serious?!? Really re-tune for adding an intake. You must be joking
I would never Re-Tune my car for an intake. Ever. That's honestly the dumbest thing I've heard in awhile.
GPforums......has now reached the level of dumb as the Honda forums.
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