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  1. #1 Looking for suggestions on building my engine 
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    So here is the dilemma ..

    I spun a rod bearing in the 04 so I'm gonna build the lower end of the engine while I'm here.. I'm wondering what you guys think on pistons. Should i put je or diamond pistons.. also should I go with stock comp ratio or the na ratio. This will mostly be run on e85 and will be a daily driver. I guess i should clarify the car is a gtp and i have a dhp...

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    Buy flakes engine and pay him to install it.
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    Naaa, I have access to all the machining equipment to do this so I'm gonna rebuild it.. just looking at the pros/cons of the different compression ratios.

    Also other than the stock and the zzp rods are there any other out there?

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    Use High compression

    Use stock L32 rods
    Adapters, Phenolic Intercoolers, Supercharger Parts & TVS2300
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    Should throw my mods in here to help make a decision easier

    Headers
    Hot air cone intake
    S1x camshaft
    Slightly "massaged" stock heads
    105# springs
    60lb injectors
    Re_Wire fuel pump
    Cat delete
    E85 tune/conversion
    Wide Band O2
    Aeroforce scan gauge
    TEP Transmission - stock stall converter

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    Well anyone with some compression ratio suggestions if I'm getting new pistons.

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    goals?

    fuel?

    power adder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    goals?

    fuel?

    power adder?

    GOALS - Fun daily driver

    FUEL - E85

    POWER ADDER - Standard 04 M90 with a 3.4 pulley for now but I'd probably move up if I go with the higher compression ratio..

    I'm mostly looking for the pros and cons.

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    Well with more static cr you need a wilder cam or more octane or less boost for it to run.

    Note the m90 record for power is 10:1 pistons, e85, and zzp al heads which increase static cr even further.

    If youre only goibg to use e85 theb max comp, otherwise it might be to to stick with a max of 9.5. Unlesa you plan on a wilder cam as well.
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    With E85 and 8.5:1 stockers you'll have no problem adding some timing and you can keep the 3.4.

    Running 9.5:1 will present some challenges, especially if your right foot suffers from Turret's Syndrome.

    In the 10.0:1 range I would get the coated pistons 'cause the motor at some point will see some detonation. Let's get real here; it's a daily driver.
    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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    I here ya.. is it even worth getting the coated pistons at 8.5:1??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rico View Post
    With E85 and 8.5:1 stockers you'll have no problem adding some timing and you can keep the 3.4.

    Running 9.5:1 will present some challenges, especially if your right foot suffers from Turret's Syndrome.

    In the 10.0:1 range I would get the coated pistons 'cause the motor at some point will see some detonation. Let's get real here; it's a daily driver.
    Ran 9.4 on pump with zero issues.
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    building a bottom end.. the rule is get the compression up as high as you can, and get the rods upgraded the best you can... its the only thing that will make it worth the $1500+ (weither you pay it or not) amount of machine work required to build it.

    If you put the right parts in, you can get the money back later.

    As far as your setup goes otherwise... E85 + s1x cam = 3.0 pulley and 360+whp on a 10:1 bottom end... aka it will work fine.
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    So out of the after market pistons out there which company do you guys recommend and why.??

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    Ran 9.4 on pump with zero issues.
    9.4 with what pulley / mods??

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    Here are some coated Diamonds from Intese...Pricey though. For an extra $100 you can specify compression ratio. You may be able to get these cheaper somewhere else.

    INTENSE-Racing.com: Diamond Coated Forged Piston/Pin/Ring Kits
    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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    Quote Originally Posted by LapeerGTP View Post
    9.4 with what pulley / mods??

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    3.4 gen III, s2 i/c, headers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    3.4 gen III, s2 i/c, headers.
    Was that on a stock tune?...I would guess not.
    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rico View Post
    Was that on a stock tune?...I would guess not.
    No. Ran e10, 42.5 injectors, ported tb. All affected the tune in their own way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    No. Ran e10, 42.5 injectors, ported tb. All affected the tune in their own way.
    Why did you run the large injectors with pump fuel? Stock injectors should have been fine...no?

    Sorry OP if this is a little off topic.
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