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    Didnt think about that, I dont know enough about aftermarket rockers to comment on that one!
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    If the cam got f*cked, wouldn't the lifters look like hell too? The rollers on them look brand new. I'll pull the heads tonight and have a look. I REEEEAAALLLY don't want to have to pull the cam out again.

    P.S. I never changed the rockers. They are stock.
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    i'd spin the engine so cly 1 is tdc and see where the cam lobes are, im pretty sure they should both be in the closed position., if you drop back in 2 lifters for cly 1, you should be able to tell where the lobes of the cam are.

    any way you look at it something is way off some how some where. i've never seen every push rod bent or broken.

    it would be a trip if you got a boat engine cam shipped to you, most boat engines run backwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottydoggs View Post
    i'd spin the engine so cly 1 is tdc and see where the cam lobes are, im pretty sure they should both be in the closed position., if you drop back in 2 lifters for cly 1, you should be able to tell where the lobes of the cam are.

    any way you look at it something is way off some how some where. i've never seen every push rod bent or broken.

    it would be a trip if you got a boat engine cam shipped to you, most boat engines run backwards.
    Yea I'll try that procedure with the lifters. I bought this cam off 03impala9c1. He's a very well respected member on many forums.
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    Are you sure that your timing marks are lined up?....because from that picture you posted, it looks to me like they are a tooth off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPpower View Post
    Are you sure that your timing marks are lined up?....because from that picture you posted, it looks to me like they are a tooth off.
    They are. The angle of the camera makes it look like it's off. But even still, a tooth off wouldn't cause this mayhem.
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    I'm pretty sure it can.....and has in the past.


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  8. #288 Re: Won't start after cam install 
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    I'm 99.99&#37; sure they are lined up perfectly. Very very very close. The picture looks fine to me?
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    I dont think a tooth would do that. If you spin the motor with all of the push rods out does it spin freely? Maybe not a good test if the valves are bent. Befor you go back together with the heads i would borrow a degree wheel and confirm the cam opening/closing times match up with the vs cam specs. Ill look and see if i still have my spec card. Aside from the bellhousing bolt between the eng/trans its really easy to pull one of these motors. Would make removing heads/cam/and oil pan (to check for any metal pieces) a lot easier.
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    A quick leak down test would tell u if there is damage to the valves. Would be easier than pulling the heads. Im pretty sure there is going to be valve damage with bent rods like that but u never know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPpower View Post
    I'm pretty sure it can.....and has in the past.
    If one tooth would do that how do gt's run with a degree of cam advance from the factory>?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    Explain how that's possible on our motors please. Because I'm not aware of it being possible.
    Yeah...don't know what the hell I was thinking. Now I feel like a dumb ass.
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    any chance those roller style lifters are taller than a stock lifter?

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    stock lifters are roller.
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    I took all the spark plugs out and turned the motor by hand with the lifters installed. The piston/cam timing is correct on #1 cylinder. The lifters stay down on compression stroke, the intake lifter comes up on intake stroke, and the exhaust lifter comes up on exhaust stroke. I looked in the valleys in the heads, and the valve stems look fine (from what I can see).
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    Maybe from repeated trying to start the engine you had so much fuel in there it hydrolocked and bent the pushrods? About the only thing I could think of if the timing was correct. Other questions are what Springs and what rockers are you using again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01gpgt01 View Post
    Maybe from repeated trying to start the engine you had so much fuel in there it hydrolocked and bent the pushrods? About the only thing I could think of if the timing was correct. Other questions are what Springs and what rockers are you using again?
    Hmmm. Yea that is possible. I'm using G8 springs/retainers and stock rockers.
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    My firing order is also correct. I'm soaking my lifters in oil overnight. Tomorrow, I will assemble the valve train and do a compression test on each cylinder, by turning the motor over by hand.
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    Just disable fuel and spark and crank it with the starter
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOtherNick View Post
    Just disable fuel and spark and crank it with the starter
    It has no oil. Is that fine? Also, is it fine to do with my LIM off?
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