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has anyone tried amino acid supplements?
i'm thinking they sound legit.
like
Beverly International Density at Bodybuilding.com: Lowest Prices for Density
or
Jarrow Formulas GPLC at Bodybuilding.com: Lowest Prices for GPLC
i dunno, what do you guys think?
Waste of money. Eat food. Food's expensive enough. Amino supplementation is for bodybuilders starving themselves to cut. You don't need it. Remotely.
You want to know what level of amino supplementation is useful? L-Carnitine needs to be something like a 6g dose... that's 12 of those pills. That's 5 days worth of pills for $20. $4/day for negligible/no results.
18 eggs is $2.79. That's less than $2/day of food (unless you're enough of a badass to eat the whole thing). And will have ten times the effect of amino supplementation. Guaranteed.
Thank you :)
I just wasn't sure, its like the multivitamin hype, you need to take like 3 to be a benifit.
In case anyone needs cheap food besides eggs:
Chicken quarters: $0.99/lb
Chicken thighs: On sale for $1.49/lb
Chicken legs: On sale for $1.39/lb (I think)
80% ground beef has been on sale for $2.99/lb a lot lately.
Found 85% "coarse ground chili meat" For $2.60/lb. Best score ever.
Ground turkey is also fairly cheap ($3.50/lb?).
I've found myself eating 6-12 eggs and 1.5-2.5lbs of meat/day. I also try to eat some vegetables... broccoli, spinach, onions being most common. Constant strength gains with no change in bodyfat, in the gym 5-6 days/week for 1.5hrs.
Been running a lot. Dipped under 140 for the first time since Summer today.
Anyone else out there chasing that 6 pack? lol
Well im chasing a 10....Quote:
Originally Posted by nos4blood70
Or a really solid 8
Here's a pretty solid article for you cats about how to eat/train for Thanksgiving.
http://tinyurl.com/aqqwtqo
Slow, any thoughts on the diuretic properties of coffee? I've heard it isn't as bad as most think.
The body adapts to consistent caffeine levels. I ingest a bare minimum of 400mg caffeine a day and only encounter dehydration when I wake up in the morning, which has nothing to do with caffeine and everything to do with not drinking anything for 8 hours straight.
The bottom line is that if you're peeing a color, you need another glass of water. Incidentally, thirst is also often mistaken for hunger, so drinking is a great way to avoid unplanned snacking.
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Bought some things..
In my experience:
Green Tea Extract: Nothing wrong with an antioxidant, but it shouldn't make you feel any different. Maybe a tiny bit of caffiene.
Acai: Again, nothing wrong with an antioxidant, but it shouldn't make you feel any different. Not a horrible idea if you just don't eat fruit.
Diuretic: Great for bodybuilding competitions. Counter-intuitive to using creatine.
CLA: Does nothing (even in MASSIVE doses). Maybe I'm just immune. Interested in your results.
Bodystrong Fat Burner: Ingredients: 640mg of Eleuthero, Taurine, Caffeine, Green Tea Extract, Kola Nut Extract, Korean Ginseng, Guarana Extract... so it's just a big caffiene pill. Those are cheaper.
Ill report back in 30 days. I take the Theirmogenic(fat burner) before the gym for an energy boost as I am drraagggingg after work.
Diuretic because I hold toooo much water weight to the point were my ankles swell and my socks dig into them
GreenT and Acai are just for the antioxidant.
CLA this is new so I will see how/if it works
My dosage was, uh... 9,360mg/day of CLA for 60 days. And literally no result. Think standard dose is 3200mg/day.
Couldn't work out for a week from getting my new tattoo and I lost 10 pounds on each arm doing dumbell press... back to 40lbs :p
Starting a new routine.
First Routine consists of only a week - Negative Reps - 120% of your max so a spotter is needed. Keep Reps and sets low and weight very high.
Following week - keep reps between 15 - 20 "Lighten Up Week"
Next three weeks - train each muscle group a minimum of twice a week, striving for three. Going for a two day split, trains all muscle in two days. Then repeat 3 times a week.
Next two weeks - reps stay between 8 and 12 with 3 or 4 forced reps at the end of each set, muscle fatigue/failure.
Following week for one week only - high reps little weight. 25 - 30 rep range.
Next 4 weeks - train each muscle group once a week and consistently low rep and increase weight each week. 1 = 15-20 reps, Week 2 = 10-12 reps, Week 3 = 6-8 reps, and Week 4 = 3-5 reps.
Lastly 4 week program - reducing my resting inbetween each rep. Starting with 2 minutes rest between each rep. Drop 30 seconds each week of resting time.
Then repeat - start back at Negative reps and repeat whole process.
Doing this just because i have hit a plateau and im getting very frustrated. Even contemplated test boosters/steroids but thats an awful choice at my young age of 19.
Currently I weigh 175 pounds and can bench 275.
Green tea, acai, CLA, etc. do virtually nothing for weight loss. They are all full of properties that are excellent for over all health, but have no direct impact on fat burning. They may have some indirect correlation to metabolism (helps with this, which in turn helps that, which in turn regulates metabolism, etc), but the resulting fat loss from this is miniscule/negligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by acidcrashdburnd
And be careful on combining a thermogenic with a diuretic. Many thermogenic products already have diuretics in them (caffeine, uva ursi, juniper, etc), and combining them with a separate diuretic on top of that can dehydrate you to dangerous levels. The water weight should leave pretty quickly if you get your diet in check (drastically reduce sodium, sugar, etc). Diuretics are usually only used by body builders right before competition to get rid of any last bit of water weight so that their skin looks razor thin over their muscles. Not to mention the best diuretic of all is........ready for this?............water! The more water you take in, the more your body realizes it doesn't need to hang on to what it has because there's ample coming in from an outside source. It's the same principal with eating. The more you restrict your calories to stupid low levels, the more your body shuts down the metabolism to hang on to the fat it already has because it thinks you're starving. The more frequently you eat (5 or 6 smaller meals a day), the more your body kicks up the metabolism because it sees it can get whatever it needs from an external source, so it doesn't need to store so much.
The directions may only say to take 3 pills, or what have you (depending on the strength per pill of any particular product), but most of the studies that were claiming fat loss were based on 6-8g/day minimum. BTW, good stuff on that link to the lift-run-bang website. Wish he still had some of those "Death is winning, do something" shirts left in large. Awesome motto for life.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowNA06
Of all the "newer" forms of creatine, KreAlkalyn is the least expensive, yet gets the best feedback. BTW, KreAlkalyn is trademarked by BioCeuticals Research & Development Laboratory, so it doesn't matter what brand you buy (All American EFX, Ultimate Nutrition, Now Nutrition, LaBrada, etc), it's all exactly the same product because it's all coming from BioCeuticals since they own the patent on it. Those companies are simply buying it from them, and throwing it in a bottle with their own label on it, so just get the best priced brand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kolton Lock
I'll 2nd what Slow said, but add to it a bit. Total amino acid complexes offer very low dosages of each individual amino. For example, in that product on the first link, you're only getting 500mg each of only 8 different aminos, and that's with 5 FREAKING PILLS!! By comparison, a simple scoop of ordinary ON 100% Whey Protein gives you 1573mg of isoleucine, 2531 of leucine, 2233 of lyscine, etc. Same goes for your actual food protein sources (chicken, eggs, fish, etc), give or take a few milligrams depending on the source. The only time to take a separate amino acid supplement is when a specific need arises from a specific amino. For example, "NO2" is nothing more than arginine in AKG, pyroglutamate of di-l-arginine l-malate form, and in large enough doses (at LEAST 3g at a time), dilates the blood vessels to allow more blood to flow into the muscles (basically, mimics your body's natural reaction during/immediately after a workout). The increased blood flow means more nutrients going where they need to go. L-carnitine helps convert fat to energy. I take 2g 2-3 times a day (first thing in the morning, and again before I go to the gym). Again, it's not a miracle worker, and a lot of the studies are contradictory to one another, but if you're doing everything else right, I HAVE personally noticed a difference in weight loss between when I take it, and when I don't. It has no side effects, and is also very good for the heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kolton Lock
So unless you have a specific need from a specific amino acid, I wouldn't bother supplementing with them.
eat more.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanPrixGTP
I think I'm doing this wrong. At the start of the year till today I weigh 12 lbs more.
Got a bike a month or so ago. Rode 46.5 miles this week alone. Last sat I rode 21.5 miles in one ride. Felt good!
I already eat alot. Eating more meals a day, but smaller is whats better for you. Your suppose to eat a small meal every 3 hours with some sort of protein.Quote:
Originally Posted by blakgtp
I watch what i eat, and im not trying to gain mass/size. Im going for more looks since i dont play football anymore and have no need for the mass. im aiming for the big(ish) muscles, little fat, with muscle definition. Im already quite toned, i just need more muscle now.