Thread: Starting to build up the intrigue, finally

Okay cool, sounds good. Thanks again.

Update : Car starts up and idles great. Tune that's in it is good. When i attempted to perform the first drive with the new drivetrain I quickly realized I did not have reverse. So after taking a break and stepping away from the car for a bit we started troubleshooting. First step was to verify we had the correct shifter linkage. The purpose was to see if the car was in between gears. Linkage was good so now the plan is to attempt to remove the reverse servo to see if the reverse band is engaging the pin. Since the header crossover pipe is right over the top of it the removal may be difficult. Worst case scenario is pull the trans. Hope that's not the case. Trying not to let this setback get the best of me.

To add:

Tried to push the car in nuetral before it had been started and it took three guys to push it on a level surface.
With reverse selected on level garage floor the car does move backward, yet appears to free rev when throttle is applied
With neutral selected on level garage floor the car again moves backward and free revs with throttle
With any forward gears selected the car does not move forward without throttle, same level garage floor.

My thought is the band popped out of position and is partially wedged or somehow making contact with the reverse drum, causing partial and weak engagement in all gears. In theory when the foward band is applied, the reverse band is holding the trans back from moving forward without throttle.

I witnessed it running last night, and i must say it looks and sounds great! Total sleeper!

Dang man. Hope ya get the tranny fixed. I've enjoyed reading ur build thread and taking in some stuff from it

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Mental Alchemy Max; make a positive out of a negative.

Between you and Bill, you can have the tranny out in no time...and you have the PCM tune situation worked out it seems.

Originally Posted by darkhorizon

I assume this is a built trans that was installed with the new engine setup?

Yeah, the whole thing was refreshed; new clutches, TEP valve body/channel plate, 300M IS, Precision TC (stock), ZZP pump shaft, 7/8" chain w/ 2.93's, etc.


Thanks guys for the comments. Hope we get it all fixed tonight (assuming we don't have to pull the trans).

Dave, are you saying "the bolts won't fight this time"?

Originally Posted by BillBoost37

To add:

In theory when the foward band is applied, the reverse band is holding the trans back from moving forward without throttle.

You made yourself a transbrake

I hope it all works out I road in the car when it was N/A can't wait to see it boosted

Well, we easily removed the rear servo and after comparing a spare trans on the shelf (yeah, pretty sure there are three spare 4t65e's in the garage lol) we verified that the band moved on us. We were unable to get the band to move into place so we began to pull the transmission. Won't be touching the car until Saturday so if all goes well with the teardown we may have it running the same day.

Before the teardown.....







Where we left it for the night....

ah **** dude, don't worry once its done and on the road, you will forget that all this happened and will have successfully built your motor and tranny.

Originally Posted by Drunkie

ah **** dude, don't worry once its done and on the road, you will forget that all this happened and will have successfully built your motor and tranny.

Thanks, don't worry, I'm just looking forward to making the fix, getting it back together, tuning it, dynoing it, and making people give me the look when they get beat by an Olds Intrigue LOL...

Originally Posted by intrigue98

Won't be touching the car until Saturday

You might not be. Best of luck, keeping me from having that trans laying on the floor before you arrive on Sat.

For those of you at home, watching the show. The cradle is ready to yank out. Then it's starter, TC bolts, diff to engine bracket, backwards bolt, trans lines and lower it out. This isn't the same way you'll find the write up on it. The write up has a bit more safety built in for a first timer. This is the way we flipped Ed's car from dead to test drive in 3.5 hours.

Lined up a helper for tonight, he won't be working on a shed tonight if he's at my place.

You might find the car parked outside if it gets fixed before Sat. If it's still inside, that means I left work for you.

Originally Posted by 98GrandPrixIraqVet

Anyone else have a strong urge to drop a car off at bills with a trunk full of parts and hope it will magically apprear sitting outside the garage ready to go hunting some stop lights????

Can't wait for this to be done getting the look from some mustang owner or something would be priceless!

I've thought about it lol...seems everyone else does it

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There's one outside right now like that. Which is why Max's needs to move.

Originally Posted by BillBoost37

There's one outside right now like that. Which is why Max's needs to move.

I plan to help with this car next week. I think it'll get done quick as usual too.