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    Car pulls strong for the mods.
    Can't wait to line him up with Ed's car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowFlake View Post
    Car pulls strong for the mods.
    Can't wait to line him up with Ed's car.
    I second that


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    In the late 90's it was 14ft lbs. I have never looked up anything over a 2000, and doubt it changed.

    On the knock settings, please do the reading on HPT or DHP sites (if it's up) about it. There's pro's and con's as well as some info that guides you to what folks have tried and liked/had issues with etc.

    On the KR at the shift point, there's even more settings on various things relating to torque management etc. GM in the programming injected knock at the shifts to reduce power and be nice to the trans. That may be your shift kr that you see. Even something as simple as calculated torque/power can upset the tune if the tune hasn't been setup properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    Even something as simple as calculated torque/power can upset the tune if the tune hasn't been setup properly.
    in my tune i had to move these thresholds way out and once that was done my car never knocked again. once it's beyond what the max thresholds are set the PCM doesn't like it at all.
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    Where is the whp #?? Then we could look at the timing vs boost vs fuel type vs whp produced.
    Still missing pieces of the puzzle here.........
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    There is no such thing as programmed KR at the shifts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowFlake View Post
    There is no such thing as programmed KR at the shifts.
    According to you. Thanks for your input on it.
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    No problem, just ensuring that the correct information is disseminated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowFlake View Post
    No problem, just ensuring that the correct information is disseminated.
    It's a shame your ego is larger than your base of knowledge


    That's induced as KR BTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    It's a shame your ego is larger than your base of knowledge


    That's induced as KR BTW.
    I have never found this. All of my transmission tuning shows directly in timing, not with any KR in all 97, 98, 99-01.5 and 01.5-03 code bases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    It's a shame your ego is larger than your base of knowledge


    That's induced as KR BTW.
    There is no such thing as KR programmed by the PCM to reduce torque on shifts. The PCM retards timing independent of the knock detection system.
    KR is a direct result of noise picked up by the knock sensors in a certain frequency range. There is only knock, and false knock... there is no "programmed knock" for torque management.
    You don't have to agree with me, you can just be wrong.

    The small blips that Chris is seeing (under 1*) are likely from noise being picked up somewhere else... not from actual knock/detonation.
    The characteristics of real knock are opposite that of false knock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowFlake View Post
    You don't have to agree with me, you can just be wrong.
    LOL, I've admitted to being wrong etc many times. It's called being humble, when you learn it ... let us know. Til then you may want to consider browsing the FSM on the info you are speaking about. You can't find the term "False knock" in the manual, because false knock isn't a real item. It's a mechanical issue that needs to be fixed.
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    The KR I'll get at times is as soon as I mash the throttle and sometimes at shift point. Before my e85 conversion it did this with 93 as well. I'll get a blip of a degree or less then it immediately goes away. When nick and I were tuning yesterday, I was getting a degree right around 4600 rpm at wot and then it would immediately go away. This happened on two pulls. Today I did a couple wot pulls and got no KR at all, not one blip. Weird.....


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    not weird... Grand Prix...
    "My car is a racecar like Planet Fitness is a gym...."

    proud mark VIII victim!!! suck it...
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    The m90 is kind of a *****.
    True story.
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    I remember John and Brian from Intense telling me that they programed some torque management into my tune to protect the less than beefy stock trans. I do remember John telling me that power is lessened at the shift point to protect the trans. I thought it was reduced timing right before the shift point but I cant remember for sure... I can't wait until I get a Triple Edge trans and can tune again with a N* throttle body and ported blower... I wouldn't worry about a 2* or less blip of KR here and there
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    Quote Originally Posted by tms8582 View Post
    I remember John and Brian from Intense telling me that they programed some torque management into my tune to protect the less than beefy stock trans. I do remember John telling me that power is lessened at the shift point to protect the trans. I thought it was reduced timing right before the shift point but I cant remember for sure... I can't wait until I get a Triple Edge trans and can tune again with a N* throttle body and ported blower... I wouldn't worry about a 2* or less blip of KR here and there
    Ported gen 3 blower? If that's the case then just get a gen 5 dude...


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    Quote Originally Posted by crbquist View Post
    Ported gen 3 blower? If that's the case then just get a gen 5 dude...


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    Why? A ported gen 3 is just as good as gen 5 from what I hear
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    Quote Originally Posted by tms8582 View Post
    Why? A ported gen 3 is just as good as gen 5 from what I hear
    Well ya heard wrong! Haha. A stock gen 5 will still outflow and be more efficient than any fully ported gen 3.


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    All of this makes me want to buy a DIY megasquirt kit more and more and do it that way fvck all the factory issues to work around........
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