Thread: exhaust system questions!!!!!

HA I'd rather have the Iron Duke over the 3.1 Both are Turds!

Originally Posted by bluegtp91

Let me slide? Thanks? The resonator gets rid of the drone dude...I've been there too...not like your the only one who has ever put exhaust on cars. Hence the name...it controls the RESONANCE of the sound. Sure...the converter might get rid of some of the rasp...But 50 times to 1...a 3800 car with a deleted res. sounds like epic crap compared to a cat deleted one...you should know this.





Shows you what you really know...there is A LOT of things different.

bluegtp91, I'm proud that you can spell resonance, truly I am. I guess that's better than the previous name calling. If you don't think a catalytic converter affects sound as much as a resonator, fine. They're all components in a system but something down the line is picking up the slack of the cat delete.

Also one very important thing, a resonator is considered an additional muffler, taking care of whatever resonance the primary muffler can't handle. Therefore you get the right muffler in the first place instead of taking the word of the internet gurus or some low quality clip on youtube. Maybe thats why gutted cat cars sound good? Good combo of muffler and resonator? Just forget about the benefits of a cat. Or if he knows of a shop that will install a catless dp if he doesn't have the ability.

I'm not sure what chances 50:1 have with anything but letting a shop remove his res, hearing that then making the choice to leave it off or simply having it welded back on is better than spending money on a set of mufflers that he might hate and be stuck with. Or even better, see what the shop has in stock and have them slip fitted to hear before he buys? He said he didn't want to spend 800$, I took that as "what can I do for cheap?"

Ive put my opinion in, I've listened to yours. There we go.

Originally Posted by Golgo13

bluegtp91, I'm proud that you can spell resonance, truly I am. I guess that's better than the previous name calling. If you don't think a catalytic converter affects sound as much as a resonator, fine. They're all components in a system but something down the line is picking up the slack of the cat delete.

Also one very important thing, a resonator is considered an additional muffler, taking care of whatever resonance the primary muffler can't handle. Therefore you get the right muffler in the first place instead of taking the word of the internet gurus or some low quality clip on youtube. Maybe thats why gutted cat cars sound good? Good combo of muffler and resonator? Just forget about the benefits of a cat. Or if he knows of a shop that will install a catless dp if he doesn't have the ability.

I'm not sure what chances 50:1 have with anything but letting a shop remove his res, hearing that then making the choice to leave it off or simply having it welded back on is better than spending money on a set of mufflers that he might hate and be stuck with. Or even better, see what the shop has in stock and have them slip fitted to hear before he buys? He said he didn't want to spend 800$, I took that as "what can I do for cheap?"

Ive put my opinion in, I've listened to yours. There we go.

Umm I think he's saying that, if you have to HEAR a pushrod V6 GM exhaust it's going to sound like s**t. he's right. Keep it as quiet, but with as much flow as possible and as least drone as possible.

Originally Posted by jbamonte

Besides the measily 25 HP difference between the 3.8 and 3.1, the 3.1 sounds better to boot!!!! A big difference in the engines is 50-100 HP. Is that the difference or should I look it up on wikipedia? Like I said, 25 HP, you guys are totally delusional about real differences here in the motors.

wow....your really a complete idiot. Your comparing the 3.1 to the 3.8...LMFAO! And being a dick to the people who do know there ****! Put about 5 lbs of boost to your 3.1 and let me know how that works out for ya. You do realize the 3.8 was named one of the top 10 engines built in the late 90's?? And the 3.1 is rated at 160 and 185 torque at the crank, vs the series 2 n/a 3800 which is 205 and 230 torque. Sorry buddy but your on crack. Neither engine was designed for high performance. But the 3800 atleast had it on there mind, along with reliablity and longevity. If you REALLY wanna argue about which engine is better overall...keep on going man, i'm sure everyone here can flame on with me. Maybe you should join a honda forum or something

Originally Posted by jbamonte

Whatever the differences are between a 3.1 and 3.8, the FACT remains that it is ONLY 25 HP!!!! Think about that!!!

Originally Posted by jbamonte

Besides the measily 25 HP difference between the 3.8 and 3.1, the 3.1 sounds better to boot!!!! A big difference in the engines is 50-100 HP. Is that the difference or should I look it up on wikipedia? Like I said, 25 HP, you guys are totally delusional about real differences here in the motors.

Originally Posted by jbamonte

Oh yeah, one more salient fact that is mentioned numerous times, "one is 60 degree and the other is 90 degree engine", and your point is? Neither engine is a high performance motor that likes to rev, neither! Like I said all those big differences amount to 25 HP advantage on the 3.8 with , 0.7 liter more displacement than the 3.1! So let's all do the math here, for 0.7 liter more displacement one V6 picks up 25 HP over the 3.1. Real high tech stuff here. Get real!!

Originally Posted by jbamonte

You guys need to get real about the differences between a 3.1 and 3.8 normally aspirated-THERE IS NOT A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THESE MOTORS!!!!

jbamonte are you this retarded on all of the forums that you get on ?

3.1L are way different than the 3.8L.

3.8L's have potential, 3.1's are TURDS!

Do i really need to go on ?

Gutting mufflers? Negative.

Cutout? Only if you take it to the track and back...cutouts suck and leak over time and/or short out.