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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoggs View Post
    use the rtv in the kit, get a extra qt or two of oil to wash down the lim should you spill coolant.

    the valve cover kits get a felpro kit with grommets, rock auto once again is as cheap as you may find. local its a 75 dollar kit.

    when you put the covers back on, take a look at the bolts, they have a shoulder at the end of the threads, only snug these bolts, or you will snap them.

    if you do spill coolant you'll really want to dump the oil, then add your new oil and filter, run it for a few minutes, and change the oil and filter once more to make sure the coolant is out of the engine.
    I've actually got a set of the FelPros that were intended for my GT, but never needed, they've been rolling around in the trunk of the GT for a good year now. So don't torque to spec, just snug and that's it?
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    you cant use those, they are not the same.


    and just snug em. f the tq spec on those, they will snap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoggs View Post
    you cant use those, they are not the same.


    and just snug em. f the tq spec on those, they will snap.
    Glad you knew that otherwise I would've been finding out the hard way. Thanks for your patience and all the information, I always like to make sure I go into something fully aware of as much as possible.
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    i hear ya. no surprises are nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoggs View Post
    you cant use those, they are not the same.


    and just snug em. f the tq spec on those, they will snap.
    WTH? If you are snapping those bolts, your torque wrench is uncalibrated or cheap or you simply don't know how to use one.

    Also, you don't really need to torque them, you can get away with snugging them. I just torqued mine for ease of mind.

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    i never broke one, but others have here. f tq spec, snug em.

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    Are you sure you're not projecting your past screw ups onto other members?

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    ive seen a number of threads with guys who snapped em off with a tq wrench. just snug em.

    once again, ive not busted a single bolt on anything related to my car that matters.

    cat back bolts dont count, nor do the cross over bolts on the stock manifolds, i was hoping more snapped off. only two snapped. lol

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    IDC what anyone says, whoever snaps them off with a torque wrench is doing something wrong.

    You can never really count exhaust bolts for a reason on these cars.

    I've stripped bolts that matter and snapped a bolt that goes to the coolant block off plate on the side of the LIM lol

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    the only thing i used a tq wrench on when i put the engine back together was the heads, and the crank sensor. thats it. every thing else got snugged good and a 1/4 to a 1/2 turn more tops.

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    Let me ask you something, did you use the torque wrench or a breaker bar to tighten the additional 90 degrees? IIRC it's 90*

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    breaker bar, mr breaks bolts lol

    why would i beat the hell out of calibrated tool?

    and the last 30º on the top row is the real b1tch. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoggs View Post
    breaker bar, mr breaks bolts lol

    why would i beat the hell out of calibrated tool?

    and the last 30º on the top row is the real b1tch. lol
    Good. Just making sure cause I've seen many uneducated people screw up torque wrenches that way.

    You bet your ass the last 30° is a pain in the balls. I would would think a person your size wouldn't think that was a big deal lol.

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    its not that hard, but its super tight, like it feels like the bolts are gonna snap. keep in mind, my way to make a bolt tight is good and snug and a 1/4 turn more. so cranking on them bolts is a un easy feeling to me.

    i even had a degree thing. 10 bucks on the peg board back in its box like its new. who knows if ill ever need it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoggs View Post
    its not that hard, but its super tight, like it feels like the bolts are gonna snap.
    Exactly! After doing several different engines, I learned not to worry too much because if the bolt snaps, you know it's the bolts fault provided your tools are calibrated and you have the right specs.
    It must be a real b!tch to drill out a broken head bolt tho lol



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    Well. Everything is almost back together before it got dark. All that's left is alternator, evap stuff, oil change, vaccuum lines and some other miscellaneous stuff.

    Couple quick questions. Do any of the following need a torque spec? Idler pulley, tensioner, coil bracket, throttle body.
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    nope, make em tight, but dont over do it. i like to make bolts good and snug, then 1/4 turn more depending on the bolt thickness.

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    Awesome thanks!
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    Did you flush the valley with oil, or did you drain almost all the coolant before removing the LIM?

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    I spilled some coolant so I ended up flushing the valley out.
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