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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowFlake View Post
    This is a very intelligent sounding post, but when you break it down and see it for what it really is... the whole idea seems a bit over stated.

    Combustion temps can easily exceed 3000* F, and they vary greatly depending on just about everything. To say that a 15* temp difference is adding stress to the head is pretty far off base. You're talking about a piece of the engine that is just a piece of cast iron with some valves opening and shutting and how many valves have failed because of a colder thermostat? How many heads have cracked because of coolant that's 15* colder than stock?

    You're talking about a temperature gradient difference of about .005%.

    I like the big words though, Mech



    Like I said before, the temp of the oil will barely, if at all notice a 15* change in coolant temp.
    Are you sure thats the temperature of combustion?

    Are you sure coolant has that little affect on oil temp?
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    Yes and Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    yeah, cause math is hard.
    It really is :/
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    195 - 180 = 15?
    I saw some people saying 30... so I guess math is pretty hard.
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    I can't math
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    Why no math can you don't? Dan...
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    makes sense me to does it
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowFlake View Post
    This is a very intelligent sounding post, but when you break it down and see it for what it really is... the whole idea seems a bit over stated.
    Combustion temps can easily exceed 3000* F, and they vary greatly depending on just about everything. To say that a 15* temp difference is adding stress to the head is pretty far off base. You're talking about a piece of the engine that is just a piece of cast iron with some valves opening and shutting and how many valves have failed because of a colder thermostat? How many heads have cracked because of coolant that's 15* colder than stock?

    You're talking about a temperature gradient difference of about .005%.

    I like the big words though, Mech



    Like I said before, the temp of the oil will barely, if at all notice a 15* change in coolant temp.


    Maybe you need to ponder a little deeper. I like to hope that GM engineered critical tolerances according to their operating fit. Running a feeler gauge here and there on a room temperature component doesn't guarantee those tolerances are observed (designed) in operation. Ring clearances come to mind.

    Ohh metals and their dissimilar expansion rates.

    "3000 degree" is combustion temp, not iron temp.

    Also, a cooler than stock engine usually translates into highly increased piston ring wear.



    However, the most disturbing facet of your post is your quoted .005% temperature gradient difference. Lets continue with the 15* coolant temp difference.

    15/3000*100% = 0.5% and not 0.005%

    0.5% is something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowFlake View Post
    Yes and Yes
    I have been looking for years for proof of oil temps on our engines. No one seems to have it. Can you post where you read or observed that our oil temps stay above 212°F with a 180°F t-stat?
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