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    One tooth off won't make a difference for starting.

    One suggestion I make to everyone is take pictures of teh gears and dots. Always. That way you never question yourself if something goes wrong.

    Gotta go back and reread the thread to see what you've tried so far.
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    Ok, let's see. Assume your timing is ok on the gear unless it turns to a point a binds. Binding would be bad.

    Check for spark, got that ...good.
    Take a piece of vacuum line and run it off the metal nipple under the SC on the LIM. Put the straw of a can of brake cleaner in there and have someone crank the car.. do a few short bursts of brake clean. Does it run? Does your shooting brake clean help it start? If yes..check the maf. a bad maf can turn off the injectors.

    Crank sensor is plugged in? Pull the connector and inspect with a mirror for any bent pins. Check the ICM connector. Should be snug.
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    if you have fuel and spark, does it have air?
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    Cam postion sensor could be the cause. If it's unhooked you have a 1 in 6 chance the motor will start. However I've never seen one cause it to run badly like you mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    if you have fuel and spark, does it have air?
    There's no vacuum leaks that I can see.
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    You'd have to have something like the EGR tube off (if not blocked) or the brake booster for that big of an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    if you have fuel and spark, does it have air?


    Seriously, some good help here. Glad to see it.

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    I'm going to replace the ICM harness tomorrow and see if that does anything.
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    Just wondering, if a MAF sensor got wet, could it cause a no-start issue?
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    i wouldn't think so...unplug it and see if the car runs...it'll run poor for a minute unplugged but will come out of it.

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    Just a though but have you unplugged the MAF and tried starting it? It'll switch over to speed density tables if no maf is showing. Won't run as good but it'll still run.

    Also I've seen some pretty stupid **** happen like a rag being left in the intake and plugging it.

    Edit. Tea time beat me to it.
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    I'm not home tonight. I'll try unplug the MAF and try start it tomorrow. I'm sure I didn't leave anything in the motor when I put it together.
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    did u gave that battery a good charge yet?...or is the motor that hard to turn over that it creates resistance when starting?..like the guys stated before, the battery sounds weak (via ur videos), but i'm wondering if the battery is good and the engine is binding a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tea Time View Post
    did u gave that battery a good charge yet?...or is the motor that hard to turn over that it creates resistance when starting?..like the guys stated before, the battery sounds weak (via ur videos), but i'm wondering if the battery is good and the engine is binding a bit.
    Battery is fully charged according to my multimeter. It does feel like it's binding a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tea Time View Post
    did u gave that battery a good charge yet?...or is the motor that hard to turn over that it creates resistance when starting?..like the guys stated before, the battery sounds weak (via ur videos), but i'm wondering if the battery is good and the engine is binding a bit.
    from the earlier posts it seems that its not turning over by hand to easily either, that would be where id be concentrating on for now, the harness seem to be in the wrong direction to me.

    maybe pull the plug wires and try to crank it, see it cranks any easier. still seems to be timing related to me, but we're not there to play with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottydoggs View Post
    from the earlier posts it seems that its not turning over by hand to easily either, that would be where id be concentrating on for now, the harness seem to be in the wrong direction to me.

    maybe pull the plug wires and try to crank it, see it cranks any easier. still seems to be timing related to me, but we're not there to play with it.
    Scotty, how would pulling the plug wires help it turn over easier?...u mean pull the plugs, then turn over?

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    What's the line that I circled?

    Also it almost sounds like it's firing but at the wrong times. Is it possible you've hooked the injectors up incorrectly to the wrong connector? Looks like you've rearranged the wiring harness so that's a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benner View Post
    What's the line that I circled?

    Also it almost sounds like it's firing but at the wrong times. Is it possible you've hooked the injectors up incorrectly to the wrong connector? Looks like you've rearranged the wiring harness so that's a possibility.

    Thats my EVAP line. The injector wires are only long enough to reach the specific cylinder they are meant for. Couldn't have mixed them up.
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    Ok, wasn't sure if you stripped the harness apart to move stuff around or not.

    This is driving me nuts as well. It's probably something simple and stupid that we're all missing.
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    What would cause a higher than normal resistance when cranking? Is tIming the only thing?
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