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    Narrowbands are not very accurate at all WOT. But to be reading 880MV(lean) and your AFR on the wideband peging 10.0 It seems off? Typically you want 930MV. Now You are also Slightly knocking on a 3.2 pulley with a measly 14WOT timing. I was running a equivilent to a 3.2 pulley on my GT with 17-18 WOT timing no knock with a Stock cam, SS intercooler. SOmething seems off on your setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01gpgt01 View Post
    Narrowbands are not very accurate at all WOT. But to be reading 880MV(lean) and your AFR on the wideband peging 10.0 It seems off? Typically you want 930MV..
    880 is lean?? i thought that it was rich? unless are you talking about that the computer would correct that with a "lean pulse" to average 450...or are you saying thats a lean "rich"
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    alright ill go get it warmed up and do a idle scan with a WOT run then ill go with a stock bin and cross my fingers on that oh dear...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin48 View Post
    880 is lean?? i thought that it was rich? unless are you talking about that the computer would correct that with a "lean pulse" to average 450...or are you saying thats a lean "rich"

    880 WOT is considered lean in narrow band terms. YES

    Scan Idle air counts. and post it up to see if you have a vac leak. I wouldnt start from a new stock bin. I dont think you have the knowlege to do so. No offense ment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01gpgt01 View Post
    880 WOT is considered lean in narrow band terms. YES

    Scan Idle air counts. and post it up to see if you have a vac leak. I wouldnt start from a new stock bin. I dont think you have the knowlege to do so. No offense ment.
    none taken i am comfortable with saying i am "retarted" (oh yes pun inteded) *slaps thigh * when it comes to the tuning side of things. so beings i don't have a vac leak how would i go about with the diagnostic aspect of troubleshooting? my trouble shooting strengths when it comes to cars is specs on sensors and dtc's and doest look like that is going to help me here....
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    lower than that 905-915 because he's cammed as well.
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    will this be easyier if i posted my tune to see if some thing is WAAAAY off??
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    the scan is what we need to see and its messed up.

    You might want to start with a new stock bin and start over.

    Sometimes the file becomes too tampered with that it becomes difficult to work with.
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    dont actually RUN the car with the stock bin without correcting for all the mods.....

    Namely injectors.

    Then get the fuel okay at 10% TPS and less and idle.

    Then try 0 psi, get that down then 2-3 PSI, get that down, then more till you reach 8 psi.

    Also limit it to 14 * of timing when doing the testing.
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    0-178 is idle in park 179-226 in drive idle 1 and 2nd gear wb would bounce 10.9-11.0 3rd it would peg to 10.0

    idle with wot #1 from justin48 -- Scan Depot dot net
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin48 View Post
    0-178 is idle in park 179-226 in drive idle 1 and 2nd gear wb would bounce 10.9-11.0 3rd it would peg to 10.0

    idle with wot #1 from justin48 -- Scan Depot dot net

    You dont have a vac leak according to the IAC counts. Looks like you may have a issue with the OBD2 Diagnostic
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    http://www.grandprixforums.net/remov...know-7092.html lots of good info in here about the rear o2 delete. Id reccomend you install the rear 02 with a sparkplug non fouler to keep the pcm happy. This link- SPARK PLUG NON FOULER - Honda-Tech shows you how to install it with the rear 02.
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    but thats where my wide band is... so i need to replace my rear o2 with that fouler thing and add anouther bung for my wide band?
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    I know this looks horrible but i noticed that some of these timeing tables like start dropping off at 5200 rpm but if my shift tables are now modified to 6200 should i continue to keep the numbers high or is there a reason beyond my understanding why it would drop off?

    this one is my "Max Torque timeing vs. rpm vs. cyl air" table

    Labels 0.08 0.12 0.16 0.20 0.24 0.28 0.32 0.36 0.40 0.44 0.48 0.52 0.56 0.68 0.80 0.92
    400 24.50549 25.36264 25.29670 24.43956 23.03297 21.23077 19.14286 16.92308 13.73626 12.10989 10.19780 8.79121 7.60440 6.13187 6.13187 6.13187
    600 24.50549 25.36264 25.29670 24.43956 23.03297 21.23077 19.14286 18.00000 16.00000 16.00000 12.00000 8.79121 8.00000 6.13187 6.13187 6.13187
    800 26.46154 27.38462 27.34066 30.00000 26.00000 26.00000 22.00000 21.01099 22.00000 20.00000 16.00000 16.00000 14.00000 7.18681 7.18681 7.18681
    1000 28.46154 29.31868 29.29670 30.00000 27.29670 26.00000 24.00000 23.01099 24.00000 24.00000 20.00000 18.00000 16.00000 9.01099 9.01099 9.01099
    1200 29.45055 30.37363 30.52747 30.04396 29.03297 28.00000 25.89011 26.00000 24.00000 26.00000 24.00000 20.00000 18.00000 11.01099 11.01099 11.01099
    1400 31.31868 32.54945 32.81319 32.32967 31.23077 29.67033 28.00000 26.00000 26.00000 26.00000 25.01099 21.01099 20.00000 12.87912 12.87912 12.68132
    1600 31.36264 32.46154 32.74725 32.37363 31.45055 30.08791 28.41758 27.01099 27.01099 26.00000 26.00000 23.01099 22.00000 13.51648 13.51648 13.23077
    1800 31.45055 32.32967 32.59341 32.37363 32.00000 31.01099 29.27473 27.01099 28.00000 26.00000 26.00000 23.01099 22.00000 13.01099 13.01099 13.01099
    2000 31.36264 32.46154 32.74725 32.37363 32.00000 31.01099 28.41758 27.01099 28.00000 26.00000 26.00000 23.01099 22.00000 13.01099 13.01099 13.01099
    2200 31.31868 32.54945 32.81319 33.01099 32.00000 32.00000 30.00000 28.00000 28.00000 26.00000 26.00000 24.00000 20.00000 12.26374 12.26374 12.26374
    2400 30.39560 31.47253 31.64835 31.12088 32.00000 32.00000 30.00000 29.01099 28.00000 26.00000 26.00000 24.00000 20.00000 12.00000 12.00000 12.00000
    2800 29.45055 30.37363 30.52747 30.04396 29.03297 32.00000 31.01099 29.01099 28.00000 28.00000 25.01099 23.01099 20.00000 11.01099 11.01099 11.01099
    3200 29.45055 30.37363 30.52747 30.04396 29.03297 32.00000 31.01099 28.00000 28.00000 28.00000 24.00000 22.00000 20.00000 11.01099 11.01099 11.01099
    3600 29.45055 30.37363 30.52747 30.04396 29.03297 32.00000 31.01099 28.00000 28.00000 28.00000 24.00000 22.00000 20.00000 11.01099 11.01099 11.01099
    4000 29.45055 30.37363 30.52747 30.04396 29.03297 32.00000 31.01099 28.00000 28.00000 28.00000 24.00000 22.00000 20.00000 11.01099 11.01099 11.01099
    4400 29.45055 30.37363 30.52747 30.04396 29.03297 32.00000 31.01099 28.00000 28.00000 28.00000 24.00000 22.00000 20.00000 11.01099 11.01099 11.01099
    4800 29.45055 30.37363 30.52747 30.04396 29.03297 32.00000 31.01099 28.00000 28.00000 28.00000 24.00000 22.00000 20.00000 11.01099 11.01099 11.01099
    5200 29.45055 30.37363 30.52747 30.04396 29.03297 32.00000 31.01099 28.00000 28.00000 28.00000 24.00000 22.00000 20.00000 11.01099 11.01099 11.01099
    5600 29.51648 30.50549 30.52747 30.04396 29.03297 27.51648 26.00000 24.00000 22.00000 20.00000 17.49451 15.49451 13.01099 10.00000 9.01099 9.01099
    6000 29.51648 30.50549 30.52747 30.04396 29.03297 27.51648 26.00000 24.00000 22.00000 20.00000 17.49451 15.49451 13.01099 10.00000 9.01099 9.01099
    6400 29.51648 30.50549 30.52747 30.04396 29.03297 27.51648 26.00000 24.00000 22.00000 20.00000 17.49451 15.49451 13.01099 10.00000 9.01099 9.01099
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    It should be in a scan. Also, I think its cool that you are using this time as a learning process. Actually doing it and not just reading about it, is to me, the best way to learn how to do anything, especially tuning!
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    here are 2 more wot runs i shifted my shift points down to 6200 and subtracted the same % for the mph... now how com my speed and my rpm both are higher than what i had it tuned for? also i cant get the commanded a\f to scan... i did the sensor as well as the PID. still nothing... oh the wide band still has the same readings as before

    wot #3 from justin48 -- Scan Depot dot net

    wot #2 from justin48 -- Scan Depot dot net
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