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    its not false. if it was false you couldnt tune it out.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikegotone'02 View Post
    ok, for a stock 3800 to be "knocking" it would blow up right? How many stock 3800's have you heard of or seen blown up? None right? If you go back to the old days where they check spark plugs instead of some stupid computer that's how they knew. I checked my plugs, which were perfect. Turned the sensors off and trapped 4mph higher...? What the? Yep, it's pulling spark even thought it does need to? Why? Because it's not real? Could that be?!?!?! OMG!!!! Wowowowowowow!!!!!!

    And for the other guy asking how it's tuned, uhhhh i turned off the knock sensors... which would be considering altering the stock tune... wow, took a mad scientist to figure that one out.

    Oh, Ok.

    lol. Thanks
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikegotone'02 View Post
    ok, for a stock 3800 to be "knocking" it would blow up right? How many stock 3800's have you heard of or seen blown up? None right? If you go back to the old days where they check spark plugs instead of some stupid computer that's how they knew. I checked my plugs, which were perfect. Turned the sensors off and trapped 4mph higher...? What the? Yep, it's pulling spark even thought it does need to? Why? Because it's not real? Could that be?!?!?! OMG!!!! Wowowowowowow!!!!!!

    And for the other guy asking how it's tuned, uhhhh i turned off the knock sensors... which would be considering altering the stock tune... wow, took a mad scientist to figure that one out.
    Thats not the smartest thing you did there...

    What you should have done was changed your knock sensors if you thought they were falsely pulling timing. That or properly tuned the car.

    Also, http://www.grandprixforums.net/f18/c...ons-25603.html

    and

    http://www.grandprixforums.net/f81/a...wed-12780.html
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverstreak View Post
    I asked a fair question and I don't think I was being unreasonable. I will wait for an answer
    wasnt directed toward you, I forsaw an arguement with my mad telepathy skillz

    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    I'm curious as to why you leave the offensive material yet hand out infractions...

    As for on topic, i have heard GM knock sensors are about as reliable as their CPS's.

    I misread the post that guy made hence my "offensive post". He changed his knock sensors... Not removed/disabled them.

    Unless I am mistaken with that understanding in which case, lets feed him to the dogs.
    you bashed a member. therfore infraction was given.

    I heard that rumor about the knock sensor/CPS as well..

    the 03/04 cobras do not have knock sensors....
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    ugh, you people kill me. I'm sorry, you guys are so mis-informed.
     

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    inform us o great grand prix god
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikegotone'02 View Post
    ugh, you people kill me. I'm sorry, you guys are so mis-informed.
    Please enlighten us oh holy one.
     

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    I did, if it wasn't picked up before it won't be picked up. Sry guys.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikegotone'02 View Post
    ok, for a stock 3800 to be "knocking" it would blow up right?
    That right there proves you are a fool. Knocking/pinging is not going to destroy an engine. Excessive amounts of it for an extended period will. "Back to the old days" as you put it, you would roll the distributor forward (bump timing) until you got pinging, then step it back a touch. So which is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UR LOSN View Post
    OK...............take it down a notch.
    haha, i find this funny, someone called him a ****ing idiot first but yet you dont tell them to calm it down.....


    cant tell one person to calm it down if your not going to tell the others....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshMcMadMac View Post
    That right there proves you are a fool. Knocking/pinging is not going to destroy an engine. Excessive amounts of it for an extended period will. "Back to the old days" as you put it, you would roll the distributor forward (bump timing) until you got pinging, then step it back a touch. So which is it?
    You can't blow up a stock 3800, it's false "knock" as in, it's not real, you're a fool to think it's real. You have no clue what you're talking about, you have no experience, you have no knowledge, you have nothing. Just stop posting.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikegotone'02 View Post
    You can't blow up a stock 3800, it's false "knock" as in, it's not real, you're a fool to think it's real. You have no clue what you're talking about, you have no experience, you have no knowledge, you have nothing. Just stop posting.
    ooooooooooooooooo...

    LOOK AT ME...I RUN 11's on the baby bottle...I'M GOD.

    Go home you child. You obviously have nothing better to say then attack people.
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    mine sure is toast... stock pulley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikegotone'02 View Post
    You can't blow up a stock 3800, it's false "knock" as in, it's not real, you're a fool to think it's real. You have no clue what you're talking about, you have no experience, you have no knowledge, you have nothing. Just stop posting.
    Mike,

    Do our community a favor and please stop posting this FALSE AND UNDOCUMENTED information you are posting! And you need to STOP bashing other members of the GPF forum, plain and simple.

    IF and this is a BIG IF, you have FACTUAL PROVEN KNOWLEDGE what you say is true? And I don't mean just because YOUR CAR does it, then post it with credible sources to prove your point. And if you don't? (Which I am sure you don't have). PLEASE STOP!!!

    This is my own only warning to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtpinsc View Post
    mine sure is toast... stock pulley.
    Good example.

    Mine was toasted with PEM's (front & rear with wrapped xover), 3" DP, 3" catback, 180*, AL104's, FWI, 3.5", 1.84:1 RR...wonder how that is...hmmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    Good example.

    Mine was toasted with PEM's (front & rear with wrapped xover), 3" DP, 3" catback, 180*, AL104's, FWI, 3.5", 1.84:1 RR...wonder how that is...hmmm...
    Well it certainly wasn't due to a weight issue

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    mine was toast after a top swap with a 3.5" on manifolds and stock downpipe haha
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikegotone'02 View Post
    You can't blow up a stock 3800, it's false "knock" as in, it's not real, you're a fool to think it's real. You have no clue what you're talking about, you have no experience, you have no knowledge, you have nothing. Just stop posting.
    You quoted me, but what you posted in no way corresponded to what I had written. I said that you would not destroy an engine just by knocking...not right away. Why not try again, and this time address what I actually posted.

    Also, it is pretty cavalier of you to tell me what I have and do not have, with you having zero knowledge of who I am...if you want a dick measuring contest, go ahead and break out the ruler. I am sure there are plenty of folks here that can put you to shame in whatever aspect you desire to use as a metric, myself included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikegotone'02 View Post
    You can't blow up a stock 3800, it's false "knock" as in, it's not real, you're a fool to think it's real. You have no clue what you're talking about, you have no experience, you have no knowledge, you have nothing. Just stop posting.
    You're obviously a troll since i provided examples and you just kept on running your mouth.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmattfxx View Post
    My car is mostly stock and have been battling high amounts of KR (5-8*). I know that the original pulley is still on there, but notice through my scan that at WOT I have gotten up to 9.11 lbs. of boost. I believe this is related to the high KR and was wondering what other factors that could occur over time would increase boost to that level. From what I have read, stock pulley usually generate between 7-8 lbs.
    Our cars differ greatly in boost measurements with the same pulleys. Some people claim to have a max of five pounds boost with the stock pulley and some record 9....I was one who had nine pounds of boost on stock pulley, however I had no knock and no mods at the time...this has been discussed many times and there are no measurements that are the same boost wise on our vehicles...it is just an approximation of how well our intake/motor/exhaust flow together everything considered unless something is way out of line.
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