Z7 Turbo Kit and proper boost

**mountaineerjeff** · 10-30-2010

ive owned an f body and a GP? i dont know what your point is there

**01gpgt01** · 10-30-2010

Originally Posted by mountaineerjeff

^^^+++10000
prixs arent fast and 12s arent fast either. and i still see an average stock grand prix with nothing but a turbo still running mid 13s at best.

the OP is talking about running 9psi, any turbo that is efficient in that range, is too small for the 3.8. to be efficient you would need to go twin turbo like the 3000gts. and just run twin 11b's

he also asked for the best/safest setup, not the one with the most power.
POWER
INEXPENSIVE
RELIABLE

now pick 2, since you arent going to be fast, then you might as well be cheap and reliable. easiest way to do that, is use the system he bought, run wastegate pressure and be done with it.

z7 kit if your running mid 13's the car has major issues.

Originally Posted by mountaineerjeff

prixs arent fast

Wheres the troll spray when you need it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKM3uRDSnlo
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**VictorSmalls** · 10-30-2010

Originally Posted by mountaineerjeff

^^^+++10000
prixs arent fast and 12s arent fast either. and i still see an average stock grand prix with nothing but a turbo still running mid 13s at best.

All I have is rockers and the smallest turbo kit (S256) out there for a GP and I have run 13.01 and have a best trap of 115.56 on street tires and traction being a serious issue with much more room to grow. I also walk my buddy's mid 12's LS1 hard on any roll. 12's on the track might not be mind blowing, but trapping in the teens on the street puts down most cars I have run into.

A family car in the 12's is pretty quick.

**mountaineerjeff** · 10-31-2010

I may be wrong, but that sounds very much like it is twin charged. even if it isnt, thats not the point. like you said yourself, try hooking up. on a street run I bet its closer to high 13s. and as far as a family car goes, I mean I know im getting way into trolling territory, but i mean my car can run high 10s on the street. that isnt too bad for a 4 door.

but all of this is far off topic, I was simply saying that he shouldnt try and blow up his daily. and because i know you guys think 12s is fast, that he would be content at wastegate pressure.

**VictorSmalls** · 10-31-2010

I am not twin charged. And yes, you are a troll.

What is your track time and MPH along with mod list, boost pressure? I know all about DSM's, Kurt Emigh is my brother-in-law and his goes 9.90's.

Side note...
If these are your only mods I would love to give you a run personally next time I am back in the Pittsburgh area (November 19th). I can bring more Wbodys with me to see what you have as well. With those mods your not anything remotely close to what you say.
"3" intake with K&N jdm galant evo 16g ported evo3 manifold custom 3" o2 full 3" dp open through electric cutout full quiet stock exhaust with cutout closed"

**darkhorizon** · 10-31-2010

This thread sucks.

Base turbo kits in big heavy stock cars running low boost are going to run 13's every now and then... it is what it is people.. Just because they spent a bit more to "go faster" than you could with a m90 is irrelevant when you compare trap speeds and "roll racing".

BTW, you can go fast for cheap.

Between my buddy shawn that has ran low 11's on a $3000 budget, and my fiero that has already went 10s at 140 on a $6000 budget (that I havent even used $4000 of yet).

**mountaineerjeff** · 10-31-2010

Originally Posted by VictorSmalls

"3" intake with K&N jdm galant evo 16g ported evo3 manifold custom 3" o2 full 3" dp open through electric cutout full quiet stock exhaust with cutout closed"

no, that was my old vr4. not the one im driving now, I have 2

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but I would be happy to take your money whenever u make a trip down here again. even though on the street with just those few modes im pretty sure the old one would have still taken your $. 300 hp awd, and 1000lbs lighter. but thats neither here nor there, and bench racing is for fegs. either way let me know when you are done pretending your boat is a race car.

but to the OP sorry for all the thread clutter and like i said without and o2 or egt I would run low boost to avoid damage. with both of those i would run enough boost to keep your block safe.

**VictorSmalls** · 10-31-2010

I still think your a troll that talks hard on the internet, but wont answer a simple question on mods. Time slips and mod list or DIAF Mr. 10 seconds.

I'll bite, but we race for bragging rights. You win I put in my sig that you beat me fair and square. If I win you don't come back and troll this board again. I'm in town for a Pen's game on the 19th. We can be down there that night.

So your saying you cut out 850+lbs out of a VR4? Your curb weight is 3351lbs compared to my 3477. LOL, your digging a hole here. I know much more about DSM's compared to the average GP guy, as I started out in imports so your not going to talk past me.

**16MustangVet** · 10-31-2010

that VR4 is ugly that is all

**saleenprix** · 11-01-2010

Originally Posted by mountaineerjeff

so either, dont know how a wastegate works, or you never seen a good setup.

the waste gate will have a set pressure where it will open. and it wont open until you hit that pressure. so your wastegate wont open until you hit full boost. not just starting to boost. my current DD runs a 15 psi wastegate. so if I run the line from the intake straight to the wastegate, my boost gauge will read 15 psi til redline, or I up the boost with the controller.

Oh and im totally gonna get flamed for this I know, but you DO NOT TURBO A GRAND PRIX TO BE FAST. you turbo one for more power, or better gas mileage, to be unique, or because you have nothing better to do. but it will NEVER BE FAST.

Im all for not blowing up your daily. IT SUCKS.

I actually agree for the most part. But, you can make a GP fast, just as you could an f-body or smartcar. The thing is, opinion. An LS1 f-body takes $$$$$ to get into the 10's. Said GP also takes $$$$$. f-bodies are cramped cars that you cant put the kids in.