Recent Header Group Buy

**blueguy** · 02-23-2010

Originally Posted by Scimmia

Really. He comes in all cocky, says "Know you facts before you post", then completely ignores the facts when they're presented.

Agreed...what an ignorant FAK.

Overpriced BS in the FS section...called him out on that...then he obviously can't open his damned eyes to know that the SLP/SSAC/DNA/Speed Daddy SLIP FIT HEADERS that he bought at 110% DIFFERENT than the Pacesetter/OBX BOLT TOGETHER COLLECTOR design that the group buy is getting...sorry to hear...Logan (Minichopper) had to weld his and cut the crap out of them to make them fit.

Have fun...sounds like a bunch of people got pwned. That sucks because the ones the local's and a few here got in the beginning were what they were really advertising...the GOOD headers.

**TorqueAutoMotiv** · 02-23-2010

Im actually kinda glad i couldn come up with the cash for the group buy then
Alot of people will just be happy to have headers it wont matter But when i buy something I want it to work right the first time

**vailskier3** · 02-24-2010

07redgpgt, i am going to be sittting by my computer anticipating your post so that i can be rest assured about the fitment on my '07...LOL!!! Mine are supposed to come in Saturday, and i MIGHT try to put them on Sunday. we shall see. it all depends on if my buddy can help me out that day...

**Bio248** · 02-24-2010

what the hell guys, ALL of the grand prixs are exactly the same. if a header fits on a 97 it will fit on an 07. ITS THE SAME DAMN MOTOR AND TRANSMISSION!

**vailskier3** · 02-24-2010

Originally Posted by Bio248

what the hell guys, ALL of the grand prixs are exactly the same. if a header fits on a 97 it will fit on an 07. ITS THE SAME DAMN MOTOR AND TRANSMISSION!

alright already! excuse me, this is my first car, and i'm still learning...i will stop saying that...

**Deathwish99** · 02-24-2010

If anything I'd stop looking up at James for being truthful as he pulled a bait and switch on us all. The headers we will receive are probably the ebay ones with different bolts (I could be totally wrong). I think the e-mail about the new mold etc was just a bunch of you know what to "calm" people. If hes willing to change the product up on you whats to say he won't do worse? Also DNA lied to other buyers about the SSAC knock offs. Talk about terrible business strategies.

If these are however T304 stainless headers that fit for majority of everyone I will indeed thank James and David on this but until then....

**vailskier3** · 02-24-2010

you can always just send them back and wait a month for the SSAC's then...

**Deathwish99** · 02-24-2010

Originally Posted by vailskier3

you can always just send them back and wait a month for the SSAC's then...

Good luck with that. I wouldn't send anything back to James to be honest (at least I wouldn't unless they were so messed up or weren't headers).

Why would a business sell headers to some people in a group buy for dirt cheap like that? I think it's to get rid of the old design that doesn't fit and to start producing the SSAC's that they know everyone wants. I bet if you sent in your knockoff pacesh***ers you wouldn't receive anything back or they'd make you pay remainder to purchase the SSAC's when and if they raise the price. This is just what I think is going on, and believe me I could be wrong but I'm trying to look @ it from their point of view. Also curious as to why killa (david) hasn't been on for some time now when he was on every day up until they were purchased and shipped?

If DNA is willing to lie to their customers and use the bait and switch what else are they willing to do?

**killakross5o4** · 02-26-2010

Originally Posted by Deathwish99

Good luck with that. I wouldn't send anything back to James to be honest (at least I wouldn't unless they were so messed up or weren't headers).

Why would a business sell headers to some people in a group buy for dirt cheap like that? I think it's to get rid of the old design that doesn't fit and to start producing the SSAC's that they know everyone wants. I bet if you sent in your knockoff pacesh***ers you wouldn't receive anything back or they'd make you pay remainder to purchase the SSAC's when and if they raise the price. This is just what I think is going on, and believe me I could be wrong but I'm trying to look @ it from their point of view. Also curious as to why killa (david) hasn't been on for some time now when he was on every day up until they were purchased and shipped?

If DNA is willing to lie to their customers and use the bait and switch what else are they willing to do?

mother f**cker i got a life ok..just cuz i am not on at the same time as u dont mean i dont get on..so why dont u shut the f**k up...and if u thought that this was a rip off that DNA was sellin these "old designs that dont fit" in the group buy..why would your dumb ass get in on the group buy then....stfu

**Deathwish99** · 02-27-2010

Originally Posted by killakross5o4

mother f**cker i got a life ok..just cuz i am not on at the same time as u dont mean i dont get on..so why dont u shut the f**k up...and if u thought that this was a rip off that DNA was sellin these "old designs that dont fit" in the group buy..why would your dumb ass get in on the group buy then....stfu

I called you out because it was an anomaly that you were not online after the buy (when you were previously on like every other second leading up to the buy). Until you can prove otherwise these are a rip off (fitment issues).

**killakross5o4** · 02-27-2010

Originally Posted by Deathwish99

I called you out because it was an anomaly that you were not online after the buy (when you were previously on like every other second leading up to the buy). Until you can prove otherwise these are a rip off (fitment issues).

did u attempt to install these on ur car yet? stfu u dont know if they fit or not..stop being a follower and be a leader..douche....MAKE them fit...

**wulfpack06** · 02-24-2010

im just glad i got the ssac knock offs i wouldnt even attempt to use the pacesetter design in stainless imo they are a terrible design.

**vailskier3** · 02-24-2010

i see your point. i'm going to install these pacesetter ko's anyways. there will probably be lots of cussing i'm sure, but i'm fairly confident that i can get them to work. i just have to do my research...

**Deathwish99** · 02-24-2010

Originally Posted by vailskier3

i see your point. i'm going to install these pacesetter ko's anyways. there will probably be lots of cussing i'm sure, but i'm fairly confident that i can get them to work. i just have to do my research...

I'm going to gather up what is needed, wait a bit, take em to get em examined and then when I have enough money pay someone to do it because I want them welded up nicely and installed great without using the clamps.

Sometimes though I get impatient, so we will see..

Also, I will either header wrap them or take them somewhere to get coated.

**vailskier3** · 02-24-2010

thats a good idea, i might wait a bit and just pay to have someone install them and do them properly...may be worth it in the end...i just hate paying for labor, and i enjoy getting my hands dirty

**Deathwish99** · 02-24-2010

Originally Posted by vailskier3

thats a good idea, i might wait a bit and just pay to have someone install them and do them properly...may be worth it in the end...i just hate paying for labor, and i enjoy getting my hands dirty

I have no welding experience and the people I know who can weld arn't sure about stainless steel headers, so I'm not risking it. If welding is needed I will put stock back on and take to a shop to have them put it on when I save up enough. If this shop I know can do headers I know they will do them for cheap as I know the manager very well.

Originally Posted by wulfpack06

where is the thread about the group buy?

The topic was closed (as to the reason not sure).

**wulfpack06** · 02-24-2010

where is the thread about the group buy?

**whiney** · 02-24-2010

Did you get the most recent e-mail form james??

**minichopper6hp** · 02-24-2010

I dont know, they look a little different then my obx ones. Still the same design, but things like the connections are different and maybe they fixed the crossover. I can already tell that the front header flange has been fixed, on the obx ones they used two rear flanges and still had the egr port on it, which had to be hacked off.