Really. He comes in all cocky, says "Know you facts before you post", then completely ignores the facts when they're presented.Originally Posted by gtpinsc
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02-23-2010
Really. He comes in all cocky, says "Know you facts before you post", then completely ignores the facts when they're presented.
02-23-2010
Agreed...what an ignorant FAK.
Overpriced BS in the FS section...called him out on that...then he obviously can't open his damned eyes to know that the SLP/SSAC/DNA/Speed Daddy SLIP FIT HEADERS that he bought at 110% DIFFERENT than the Pacesetter/OBX BOLT TOGETHER COLLECTOR design that the group buy is getting...sorry to hear...Logan (Minichopper) had to weld his and cut the crap out of them to make them fit.
Have fun...sounds like a bunch of people got pwned. That sucks because the ones the local's and a few here got in the beginning were what they were really advertising...the GOOD headers.
02-23-2010
Im actually kinda glad i couldn come up with the cash for the group buy then
Alot of people will just be happy to have headers it wont matter But when i buy something I want it to work right the first time
02-23-2010
Congrats man, glad to see you've come a long way since asking how to remove a spark plug....HAHA Please.. we all know i am the first to test everything new around here.
Dash Z Headlights
Speed Daddy headers
Whatever.
Pics from 2 weeks ago.
Remember when Spartans lead the way, the rest follow suite.
Good Luck.
And on another note, if these don't fit like they should I will simply send them back. It does suck they aren't the ones I thought but I'm gonna hold off on the speculating until I get these on and see first hand how they work out.
02-23-2010
Glad to see your NOT payin any attention to the posts. These are what we are getting. Try NOT bein so hasty and READ the posts before you jump to conclusions PAL. Also I'm sure I will be the first to attempt install on these. TY come again
02-23-2010
You are right gtp. The only reason we are all getting these is because James didn't want everyone to have to wait for the "ssacs" to come back into stock. Not because they had fitment issues. Regaurdless we all thought we were getting "ssac KO" headers but in fact we are getting "pacesetter KO" headers which by the way are more pricey!myself, you and several others got the SSAC knockoffs... DNA said those had fitment issues and went with pacesetter design... so the ones we got arent exactly the same as these.
02-23-2010
Too bad he wasn't smart enough to just install the front header last and remove the transmission dipstick tube and ratchet the motor forward with straps...that way he wouldn't have had to remove the rear valve cover. I'd be shocked to see if he even replies to this...after being called out he doesn't like to reply back knowing how stupid some of the things he posts are.Glad to see your NOT payin any attention to the posts. These are what we are getting. Try NOT bein so hasty and READ the posts before you jump to conclusions PAL. Also I'm sure I will be the first to attempt install on these. TY come again
02-24-2010
lol thats exactly what my mechanic did when he installed my TOG's. I was lookin like what the hell?? But it worked out pretty good.
02-24-2010
07redgpgt, i am going to be sittting by my computer anticipating your post so that i can be rest assured about the fitment on my '07...LOL!!! Mine are supposed to come in Saturday, and i MIGHT try to put them on Sunday. we shall see. it all depends on if my buddy can help me out that day...
02-24-2010
what the hell guys, ALL of the grand prixs are exactly the same. if a header fits on a 97 it will fit on an 07. ITS THE SAME DAMN MOTOR AND TRANSMISSION!
02-24-2010
alright already! excuse me, this is my first car, and i'm still learning...i will stop saying that...
02-24-2010
If anything I'd stop looking up at James for being truthful as he pulled a bait and switch on us all. The headers we will receive are probably the ebay ones with different bolts (I could be totally wrong). I think the e-mail about the new mold etc was just a bunch of you know what to "calm" people. If hes willing to change the product up on you whats to say he won't do worse? Also DNA lied to other buyers about the SSAC knock offs. Talk about terrible business strategies.
If these are however T304 stainless headers that fit for majority of everyone I will indeed thank James and David on this but until then....
02-24-2010
you can always just send them back and wait a month for the SSAC's then...
02-24-2010
im just glad i got the ssac knock offs i wouldnt even attempt to use the pacesetter design in stainless imo they are a terrible design.
02-24-2010
Good luck with that. I wouldn't send anything back to James to be honest (at least I wouldn't unless they were so messed up or weren't headers).
Why would a business sell headers to some people in a group buy for dirt cheap like that? I think it's to get rid of the old design that doesn't fit and to start producing the SSAC's that they know everyone wants. I bet if you sent in your knockoff pacesh***ers you wouldn't receive anything back or they'd make you pay remainder to purchase the SSAC's when and if they raise the price. This is just what I think is going on, and believe me I could be wrong but I'm trying to look @ it from their point of view. Also curious as to why killa (david) hasn't been on for some time now when he was on every day up until they were purchased and shipped?
If DNA is willing to lie to their customers and use the bait and switch what else are they willing to do?
Last edited by Deathwish99; 02-24-2010 at 10:33 AM.
02-24-2010
i see your point. i'm going to install these pacesetter ko's anyways. there will probably be lots of cussing i'm sure, but i'm fairly confident that i can get them to work. i just have to do my research...
02-24-2010
I'm going to gather up what is needed, wait a bit, take em to get em examined and then when I have enough money pay someone to do it because I want them welded up nicely and installed great without using the clamps.
Sometimes though I get impatient, so we will see..
Also, I will either header wrap them or take them somewhere to get coated.
02-24-2010
thats a good idea, i might wait a bit and just pay to have someone install them and do them properly...may be worth it in the end...i just hate paying for labor, and i enjoy getting my hands dirty
02-24-2010
where is the thread about the group buy?
02-24-2010
I have no welding experience and the people I know who can weld arn't sure about stainless steel headers, so I'm not risking it. If welding is needed I will put stock back on and take to a shop to have them put it on when I save up enough. If this shop I know can do headers I know they will do them for cheap as I know the manager very well.
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