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    opening a dispute just has paypal email him (good luck there, huh?) They don't really get involved until you escalate it to a claim, which I'll do Friday if he desn't respond to their email.

    I never had to go that far, so I don't know how or if we get our money back if he just keeps ignoring them...He could just go set up shop elsewhere and we're all out our cash....
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    I already escalated it to a claim TDC has until the 17th to respond. I bought another LIM from Morad, it was 1/2 of the price and it should be here "in the next few days." Yup, i heard that from TDC too. funny how he never did give me the tracking number that i requested. Unfortunately, I have a feeling im going to have to go through my credit card to get my money back.


    this e-mail was sent on Aug 31, 2009 @8:45PM
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    For some reason your package got delayed by ups. They called about it today. Said the label was partially off. I gave them the correct information and they said your package will be there on Thursday.



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    From: Anthony DeGrote [mailto:********@yahoo.com]
    Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:48 PM
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    Subject: Fw: L32 LIM



    Did not receive a reply to my initial e-mail, phone call or the 3 PMs I sent on GPF, so Ill try again. Do you have a tracking number for my LIM?

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    Updated List of customers/pending paypal disputes:
    Someone really needs to get in contact with him, I tried calling again and nothing... Who has his messenger addy?
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    For those filing paypal disputes:
    Some things to keep in mind about paypal disputes. You guys have only 45 days after the transaction to open a dispute or you will not ever be able to. Some of you ordered FWIs early in August, so keep that limit in mind. Once you have opened a dispute you have 20 days to escalate it to a claim or else it will be closed permanently.
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    3. intrigue98 - 8/25 - 1 Red Aeroforce - 8/26 - 2nd red Aeroforce + Dual cable, s/c oil
    4. Going Too Phast - 8/26 - 1 FMHE - opened paypal dispute
    5. GTPrix - 1 Aeroforce - s/c oil
    6. deangtp - 8/25 - FWI
    7. 01GTP - 8/26 - aeroforce
    8. matt5112 - 8/15 - FWI+filter - opened paypal dispute, filed claim, TDC has til 21st to respond to claim
    9. garyd02gtp - opened paypal dispute, claim pending
    10. flrgen - 8/5 - FWI+filter
    11. aligater - 8/25 FMHE
    12. silverbullet - 7/29 - (2) FWI
    13. qball - still waiting refund of $1200
    14. rocket88 - 1 green aeroforce
    15. PonchoDvr4Lfe - 8/26 LIM
    16. chrisb - 8/27 - 1 red aeroforce - opened paypal dispute
    17. seanmanman571 - 8/31 - 1 red aeroforce
    18. explokid - opened paypal dispute, filed claim, TDC has til 17th to respond to claim
    19. nvsridez - 8/25 - 1 red aeroforce
    20. Talsition - Rear drilled and slotted rotors, rear break pads, front sway bar bushing kits inner and outer
    21.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoSHO99 View Post
    Updated List of customers/pending paypal disputes:
    Someone really needs to get in contact with him, I tried calling again and nothing... Who has his messenger addy?
    TDCRacing
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    1. FoSHO99 - 8/26 - 1 red Aeroforce + Dual cable
    2. mvey - 8/6 - FWI
    3. intrigue98 - 8/25 - 1 Red Aeroforce - 8/26 - 2nd red Aeroforce + Dual cable, s/c oil
    4. Going Too Phast - 8/26 - 1 FMHE
    5. GTPrix - 1 Aeroforce - s/c oil
    6. deangtp - 8/25 - FWI
    7. 01GTP - 8/26 - aeroforce
    8. matt5112 - 8/15 - FWI+filter
    9. garyd02gtp - opened paypal dispute, claim pending
    10. flrgen - 8/5 - FWI+filter
    11. aligater - 8/25 FMHE
    12. silverbullet - 7/29 - (2) FWI
    13. qball - still waiting refund of $1200
    14. rocket88 - 1 green aeroforce
    15. PonchoDvr4Lfe - 8/26 LIM
    16. chrisb - 8/27 - 1 red aeroforce
    17. seanmanman571 - 8/31 - 1 red aeroforce
    18. explokid - opened paypal dispute, filed claim, TDC has til 17th to respond to claim
    19. nvsridez - 8/25 - 1 red aeroforce
    20.
    I've actually got a paypal dispute open as well, TDC has till 21st till I escalate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoSHO99 View Post

    1. FoSHO99 - 8/26 - 1 red Aeroforce + Dual cable
    2. mvey - 8/6 - FWI
    3. intrigue98 - 8/25 - 1 Red Aeroforce - 8/26 - 2nd red Aeroforce + Dual cable, s/c oil
    4. Going Too Phast - 8/26 - 1 FMHE
    5. GTPrix - 1 Aeroforce - s/c oil
    6. deangtp - 8/25 - FWI
    7. 01GTP - 8/26 - aeroforce
    8. matt5112 - 8/15 - FWI+filter
    9. garyd02gtp - opened paypal dispute, claim pending
    10. flrgen - 8/5 - FWI+filter
    11. aligater - 8/25 FMHE
    12. silverbullet - 7/29 - (2) FWI
    13. qball - still waiting refund of $1200
    14. rocket88 - 1 green aeroforce
    15. PonchoDvr4Lfe - 8/26 LIM
    16. chrisb - 8/27 - 1 red aeroforce
    17. seanmanman571 - 8/31 - 1 red aeroforce
    18. explokid - opened paypal dispute, filed claim, TDC has til 17th to respond to claim
    19. nvsridez - 8/25 - 1 red aeroforce
    20.
    Guess you can add me to this list too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoSHO99 View Post
    Updated List of customers/pending paypal disputes:
    Someone really needs to get in contact with him, I tried calling again and nothing... Who has his messenger addy?
    TDCRacing
    M-F 9:00am - 9:00pm
    (478) 225-5977
    Sales@TopDeadCenterRacing.com

    1. FoSHO99 - 8/26 - 1 red Aeroforce + Dual cable
    2. mvey - 8/6 - FWI
    3. intrigue98 - 8/25 - 1 Red Aeroforce - 8/26 - 2nd red Aeroforce + Dual cable, s/c oil
    4. Going Too Phast - 8/26 - 1 FMHE
    5. GTPrix - 1 Aeroforce - s/c oil
    6. deangtp - 8/25 - FWI
    7. 01GTP - 8/26 - aeroforce
    8. matt5112 - 8/15 - FWI+filter
    9. garyd02gtp - opened paypal dispute, claim pending
    10. flrgen - 8/5 - FWI+filter
    11. aligater - 8/25 FMHE
    12. silverbullet - 7/29 - (2) FWI
    13. qball - still waiting refund of $1200
    14. rocket88 - 1 green aeroforce
    15. PonchoDvr4Lfe - 8/26 LIM
    16. chrisb - 8/27 - 1 red aeroforce
    17. seanmanman571 - 8/31 - 1 red aeroforce
    18. explokid - opened paypal dispute, filed claim, TDC has til 17th to respond to claim
    19. nvsridez - 8/25 - 1 red aeroforce
    20.
    you can add me on here to order an intake with filter and ported supercharger case
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    Quote Originally Posted by grand2000prixgtp View Post
    you can add me on here to order an intake with filter and ported supercharger case
    Did you pay him, or were you going to order it? The list is for all the members paid but haven't received anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoSHO99 View Post
    Did you pay him, or were you going to order it? The list is for all the members paid but haven't received anything.
    i paid for it some time last month and i emailed him. but never got a conformation. so i emailed him
    Willie


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    hey i order the intake and a ported supercharger but i got no conformation email sent to me.
    TDCRacing

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    HMMM not sure why. It is in process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyd02gtp View Post
    opening a dispute just has paypal email him (good luck there, huh?) They don't really get involved until you escalate it to a claim, which I'll do Friday if he desn't respond to their email.

    I never had to go that far, so I don't know how or if we get our money back if he just keeps ignoring them...He could just go set up shop elsewhere and we're all out our cash....
    For those of you that have not had to deal with claims on Paypal. They are pretty quick and painless....as long as both parties either agree or there is indisputable evidence that you got hosed on the deal.

    Example:
    Good claim- Me being lazy had the same password for my ebay and paypal, so needless to say someone hacked one and immediately had the other. Contected the guy that sold the product, he agreed to a refund and I had everything fixed that same day.

    Bad Claim- Similar situation as this, where the person fell of the face of the earth. Paypal pretty much told me that they had no way of getting a hold of the guy and I should have only dealt with people I knew better. So we'll see how this one pans out if I have to file a claim. At least I am only out 75.00 on this deal, it was almost 3k on the last one!!!
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    great over 10 pages of TDC this does not look good! that's a record for me now getting ripped off by 2 gpf members within 6 months. one was by ryangtp89, the evil vampire and the blood $$$ sucking douche. now TDC, you got me parker you fool me!!
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    liquifire- I'm out $500 if FoSho wants to add amounts owed....

    LOL I like how all these guys who know him personally dropped off too....
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    I opened a dispute last night and it will get escalated very shortly. Those posts about him signing on to messenger and leaving without even a post on here clinched it for me. Getting this settled is either a very low or non existent priority for him.

    Some things to keep in mind about paypal disputes. You guys have only 45 days after the transaction to open a dispute or you will not ever be able to. Some of you ordered FWIs early in August, so keep that limit in mind. Once you have opened a dispute you have 20 days to escalate it to a claim or else it will be closed permanently. So don't just leave it as a dispute for too long. Also note that paypal says that once you open a dispute they freeze that amount in his account so he can't empty it and run (if he hasn't already). So it is a good idea to open the dispute quickly so hopefully, YOUR money is frozen and he can't pull it out. Otherwise even if you win the dispute there won't be any money to draw from and you're SOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Going Too Phast View Post
    Some things to keep in mind about paypal disputes. You guys have only 45 days after the transaction to open a dispute or you will not ever be able to. Some of you ordered FWIs early in August, so keep that limit in mind. Once you have opened a dispute you have 20 days to escalate it to a claim or else it will be closed permanently. So don't just leave it as a dispute for too long. Also note that paypal says that once you open a dispute they freeze that amount in his account so he can't empty it and run (if he hasn't already). So it is a good idea to open the dispute quickly so hopefully, YOUR money is frozen and he can't pull it out. Otherwise even if you win the dispute there won't be any money to draw from and you're SOL.

    thanks for sharing the paypal process, im sure it will help people out, not just about this but in general!
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    yeah the paypal info was helpfull there. thanks. i would still like to wait a few more days maybe into next week before i file a claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisb View Post
    yeah the paypal info was helpfull there. thanks. i would still like to wait a few more days maybe into next week before i file a claim.
    He's had ample time to post a message, contact you guys. I wouldnt be waiting or giving him any days. Here's the deal; the only way anyone will get their money back through paypal is IF he still has money in his paypal account. If he has moved the money out of his account then your S.O.L. I did business with TDC and got my parts. I really don't know what or why he has made no contact. Whatever the "family emergency" was it would have taken only a few minutes to post a message to his customers. Its not just guys on this forum either that are waiting for parts and out money. I hope you guys get your money back but with the site going down and no contact from him, its not looking good.
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