Quote Originally Posted by Explicit_Spade View Post
One example of a better car would be a 2002 STI, which made 265 crank with only 4 cylinders, handled better and was all wheel drive. Think about the cobalt SS, srt4, etc that made as much power with less displacement.

V6 is an awkward medium, that's why there's nothing to compare the GTP to. I'd say the eaton powered v6 thunderbirds are the closest comparison and Ford was smart enough to drop those by 97. The difference of course being that the Thunderbird had an advantage by being rear wheel drive.
ok, well most of those 4 cylinder engines do not have the torque of a stock L67 much less a modded L67. comparing a boosted 4 cylinder to a boosted 3800 is like apples to oranges. the L67 has low end grunt and plenty of it, even in stock form. a cobalt SS supercharged makes 200 hp only makes 205 ft/lbs of torque, the L67 makes 270 ft/lbs stock. the turbo version is better at 260 ft/lbs but I'm guessing that's pretty close to limits of the engine. we all know that the L67 is capable of allot more power then stock. L67's are awesome, reliable, and powerful engines. heck I love any 3800 engine, and I for one would much rather listen to the sweet sound of a 3800 then listen to some god-awful raging weed-wacker 4 cylinder. I do not like the way 4 cylinders sound. just as much as a small block chevy produces a great exhaust note, I think the 3800 produces its own great exhaust note. heck, I would rather listen to the 3.1 in my cream puff 1991 cavalier RS 3.1 convertible I have, yes I have one of them as well. its in cherry condition and has a brand new convertible top. I always wanted a convertible and I always liked that generation of cavalier, the newer cavaliers I never cared for.