well thanks for the info ..i have resolved the problem with the radio it was the wiring harness one of the power wires was rubbing under the dash and it was frayed so i got the radio working now the dic comes on but it sometimes goes out..so ive checked the harness and power comes out of the harness and the unit has a good ground if you hit the dic unit it lights up and works better so im thinking its inside the unit itself so next project is to take it apart and look inside...thanks for the help might have to get a new dic ..maybe...