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  1. #1 LIM Gasket Replacement. what else while I'm here 
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    Just picked up an 02 GTP 40th anniversary Coupe with 160k km's on it. Only aftermarket part is a K&N cold air kit, however it also the includes the ever popular "dreaded" leaking intake option.

    Got it for a deal because of the intake leak. (no milkshaking in the oil either) I've done the repair 3 or 4 times so it shouldn't be an issue. Just wondering what everyone else would replace while were opening her up.

    My list is as follows.
    -Lower intake manifold gasket
    -Injector O-rings
    -Supercharger (upper) manifold gasket
    -Supercharger oil
    -Valve cover gaskets
    -both coolant elbows
    -lower temp thermostat
    -Spark plugs

    Anything else while were down there? Thanks guys
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    i'd add some new vac tubing and T's to the list, as you know they will break on ya.


    why a temp sensor? is it not working?

    and make sure you have thread sealant on hand for the lim bolts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottydoggs View Post
    i'd add some new vac tubing and T's to the list, as you know they will break on ya.


    why a temp sensor? is it not working?

    and make sure you have thread sealant on hand for the lim bolts.

    I've always just put a cooler thermostat in 160* or 180* makes it run a little cooler.

    Yes Forgot about the T's always replace those as well Thanks Scotty
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    sheeesh, i miss read you lol you can if you want, no real benefit's if your stock. and not tuned for it. the fans really should be tuned for it.

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    true enough but on an unopened 160k thermostat its bound to fail sooner or later.
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    While your supercharger is off, change the coupler?? And yeah, if you are running stock, I would stick with the 195 stat. My thinking, and correct me or provide more insite, if your thermostat is open more often then closed, is it really allowing the coolant to absorb the heat from your motor? I'd buy a new tstat, just not a cooler one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbextreme View Post
    While your supercharger is off, change the coupler?? And yeah, if you are running stock, I would stick with the 180 stat. My thinking, and correct me or provide more insite, if your thermostat is open more often then closed, is it really allowing the coolant to absorb the heat from your motor? I'd buy a new tstat, just not a cooler one.
    Stock is a 195*, not a 180*.
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    180* is fine, stock or not. Seeing as you are up north, drill it so coolant is always flowing. Spark plug wires while you're there. Use the metal coolant elbows, for a few $ more they won't break. Don't forget a throttle body gasket as you might as well clean that while s/c is off engine.
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    Bookmarking this, also why would you drill the t-stat for it to always be flowing? What's the benefit?
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    I too am confused on the drilling of the thermostat. What benefits does this have?
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    Paint your SC and fuel rails while they are off also. If it has not been done, replace the fuel filter too, can't hurt.
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    Im not sure if your looking for performance or not but now would be a good time to port the supercharger a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverant GTP View Post
    Wow interesting stuff. makes complete sense with the dumping of freezing coolant pouring over the hot heads. thanks for that reverant!

    Performance gains would be an added bonus. any links on charger porting? never tried that yet either. I've ported items on my 87 Grand national but the w-bodys have been daily grocery runners.
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    http://www.grandprixforums.net/porti...ger-26003.html this was the only one i found. What i did was use a carbide tbit and a router. I used wd40 to cool the bit which stopped it from plugging up and seemed to help it take out the aluminum. I removed the bolt bosses and just extended the v down to end of the case. I also did some work on the inlet with opening it up and smoothing out the divot.
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    I am sure there are better write ups out there but that one should get you started. Oh and make sure to tape over the needle bearings inside the case so you dont get shavings inside.
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    Some take out the h bar and open up the lower intake accordingly however i don't believe this does much unless its for an intercooler. Not to mention pressure is built up in the lower intake manifold which opening all that up would hurt that pressure from happening... if that makes sense, or at least in my head thats how it goes.
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    H-Bar and no H-bar is same... Makes no difference. I'd leave it unless Intercooled. Biggest gain is just going to come from smoothing out the rough casting and cleaning the outlet side of the rotors on the case along with the enlarginging of the "V's" open end. You can look at my car thread, think I put some pics there, but there are plenty of pics and threads on porting the S/C. I agree as well, if time allows and willing to do it, clean it up and paint it, TB as well. Don't port the TB though unless you can tune for it.

    As for the Thermostat, It's old school... Nice article and I didn't know it existed, lolz... But the other reason too is that even if the stat goes bad and stays shut, you'll have some flow.

    If you want to go the 9's and do all good things to her, do a Tranny Pan drop and change the filter and fluid in there might as well. Lol
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    Powder coat or rattle can for the charger and rails etc? I wouldnt just rattle can with vht paint would you? i cant see that ending up very pretty in 60k
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    you could use vht caliper paint, not sure how broad there color choices will be.

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