Does powder coating fade

**dpzelenak** · 10-21-2012

So then work out a deal, drop those pos ones in a blaster and swap them while the others get actually powdercoated....
I get it Logan about being po'd out it, i would be but just work the cash and move on

**REDCRAPGP** · 10-21-2012

For sure Joey...you know the number and I'm on here most of the time.

To OP for the price you paid you can't have to much hate...I would split the cost when and if I had the money to make the situation right I I was the seller. I can tell you I seem the car in person and it did not look like a plain Jane paint job on the calipers..looked powder coated to me. If there was a issue with shipping or being damaged by the post office you need to handle that with them. You have to take blame for some of it..if you waited to long to file dispute. Didn't offer to add or pay insurance on them etc. I can say I've done transaction with the seller before without any issues and won't hesitate to again in the future.

**Logan541** · 10-21-2012

Originally Posted by REDCOMPG

For sure Joey...you know the number and I'm on here most of the time.

To OP for the price you paid you can't have to much hate...I would split the cost when and if I had the money to make the situation right I I was the seller. I can tell you I seem the car in person and it did not look like a plain Jane paint job on the calipers..looked powder coated to me. If there was a issue with shipping or being damaged by the post office you need to handle that with them. You have to take blame for some of it..if you waited to long to file dispute. Didn't offer to add or pay insurance on them etc. I can say I've done transaction with the seller before without any issues and won't hesitate to again in the future.

I contact him several times he assured me they were being shipped out soon as he got back then after he got them off he seemed like a stand up guy I seen him on the forum a lot so I trusted him but HE shipped after paypal protection ran out, so I could not file a dispute he did not tell me he was not insuring them nor offer it whenever I ship anything I insure it I figured common sense anyone would.

**Logan541** · 10-21-2012

Originally Posted by REDCOMPG

For sure Joey...you know the number and I'm on here most of the time.

To OP for the price you paid you can't have to much hate...I would split the cost when and if I had the money to make the situation right I I was the seller. I can tell you I seem the car in person and it did not look like a plain Jane paint job on the calipers..looked powder coated to me. If there was a issue with shipping or being damaged by the post office you need to handle that with them. You have to take blame for some of it..if you waited to long to file dispute. Didn't offer to add or pay insurance on them etc. I can say I've done transaction with the seller before without any issues and won't hesitate to again in the future.

and if you check back on previous post I did offer to split the cost with him I still have no reply

**RALM** · 10-21-2012

Originally Posted by Logan541

You may want to brush up on the law and definitions of fraud this is right from the US Postal Office
Mail

18 U.S.C. § 1341 provides:
Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation occurs in relation to, or involving any benefit authorized, transported, transmitted, transferred, disbursed, or paid in connection with, a presidentially declared major disaster or emergency (as those terms are defined in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122)), or affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.^[2]

Holy runon lmao

**Logan541** · 10-21-2012

Originally Posted by RALM

Holy runon lmao

Run on was not me that was a cut and paste directly from the post office website

**Slick2500** · 10-21-2012

To me it looks like you both got screwed.

There is a local guy here that does "powder coating" and I've heard storys on 605racing about how people have seen him touching up spots he missed on the powder coat job with spray paint, not even rustolium but the cheep wal-mart .99 crap. And from the little bit I have heard about minichopper he was possibly doing the exact same thing or half assing it.

As for the damage to the boxes I would never sign for anything that came in a box looking that bad without checking what was inside first. Even without insurance you have a case for negligence there. There is no friggin reason that box should have showed up in that condition.

**Logan541** · 10-21-2012

Originally Posted by slick2500

To me it looks like you both got screwed.

There is a local guy here that does "powder coating" and I've heard storys on 605racing about how people have seen him touching up spots he missed on the powder coat job with spray paint, not even rustolium but the cheep wal-mart .99 crap. And from the little bit I have heard about minichopper he was possibly doing the exact same thing or half assing it.

As for the damage to the boxes I would never sign for anything that came in a box looking that bad without checking what was inside first. Even without insurance you have a case for negligence there. There is no friggin reason that box should have showed up in that condition.

I didn't have to sign it was left on my back deck that way

**Slick2500** · 10-21-2012

Originally Posted by Logan541

I didn't have to sign it was left on my back deck that way

You should have still called USPS and asked them wtf? I would have taken it to the post office and been like what the hell?

**Logan541** · 10-21-2012

Originally Posted by slick2500

To me it looks like you both got screwed.

There is a local guy here that does "powder coating" and I've heard storys on 605racing about how people have seen him touching up spots he missed on the powder coat job with spray paint, not even rustolium but the cheep wal-mart .99 crap. And from the little bit I have heard about minichopper he was possibly doing the exact same thing or half assing it.

As for the damage to the boxes I would never sign for anything that came in a box looking that bad without checking what was inside first. Even without insurance you have a case for negligence there. There is no friggin reason that box should have showed up in that condition.

Again thye sticker on there indicated the box was recievd by the post office damage and without insurance or proper packing a claim can not be filed,check with local post office they will explain it to you the same way they did to me. The seller would have to offer proof he packed the properly which if what he is saying is true could be resolve by takeing his but to the guy that shipped it and speaking to him and fileing a complaint against him.But for some reason he ignores that, I've mentioned it to him several times

**Sandman** · 10-21-2012

Originally Posted by REDCOMPG

^ bingo agreed. I can honestly say when I seen the car in person some time ago the calipers looked powder coated and not painted on at all.

They did look fine at one time, but really fresh paint/powdercoating can look the same. Joe could've been scammed on these and wouldn't have known it till later.

Originally Posted by blackspike2710

Sucks when you don't receive the stuff you expect, doesn't it.

In Joe's defense st least he's here trying to work with you, minichop just took people's money and ran.

**Spartan GL** · 10-21-2012

Originally Posted by REDCOMPG

For sure Joey...you know the number and I'm on here most of the time.

To OP for the price you paid you can't have to much hate...I would split the cost when and if I had the money to make the situation right I I was the seller. I can tell you I seem the car in person and it did not look like a plain Jane paint job on the calipers..looked powder coated to me. If there was a issue with shipping or being damaged by the post office you need to handle that with them. You have to take blame for some of it..if you waited to long to file dispute. Didn't offer to add or pay insurance on them etc. I can say I've done transaction with the seller before without any issues and won't hesitate to again in the future.

Thats right i sold you something before REDCOMG, what was it again?

Originally Posted by Sandman

They did look fine at one time, but really fresh paint/powdercoating can look the same. Joe could've been scammed on these and wouldn't have known it till later.

In Joe's defense st least he's here trying to work with you, minichop just took people's money and ran.

Well Minichopper did a amazing job on all the **** in the engine bay even doing it with a sandblaster and oven on his apartments balcony (ive been to his house) the calipers didn't look bad when i put them in the box alittle dirty maybe because i didn't have time to clean them up and degreese them.

**Logan541** · 10-21-2012

Originally Posted by Sandman

They did look fine at one time, but really fresh paint/powdercoating can look the same. Joe could've been scammed on these and wouldn't have known it till later.

In Joe's defense st least he's here trying to work with you, minichop just took people's money and ran.

Like maybe
So "Joe could've been scammed on these and wouldn't have known it till later. " Like maybe when listed this crap and pawned it off and still that does NOT explain the brake dust and the rust to that degree more than one person on this site said that is way more than 1500 miles so while he was in iraq someone could have been driving his car. and you say he is working with me...umm how read all the posts he states he is not responsible (which is true in a way he is obvioulsy very irresponible or he would have made sure they were packe properly and insured them) and he avioded my phone calls or any contact with me it took me weeks to reach him (check his build thread ) I had to contact him on his build thread to ask if he was going to call me thats when he finnaly got back to me he ignored pms and phone calls. So how is he working with me? I offered to have him refund half the money.

**stealthee** · 10-21-2012

USPS does not require a signature unless it is requested by the shipper.

Also any and all insurance claims would be denied due to improper packaging. Another responsilbility of the shipper.

**Logan541** · 10-21-2012

Originally Posted by stealthee

USPS does not require a signature unless it is requested by the shipper.

Also any and all insurance claims would be denied due to improper packaging. Another responsilbility of the shipper.

Thanks stealthee I know this guy isn't going to do the right thing its just if I can warn other about him hey it saves someone some aggravation, its principle at this point

**Logan541** · 10-21-2012

USPS said that's the way they received it hence the sticker on it, no packing materials (foam, bubble wrap. etc) puts the responsibility on the shipper.

**NegativeOne13** · 10-21-2012

Here is how I feel about this...

Beetlejuice pretty well sums it up.

**Logan541** · 10-21-2012

NegativeOne13 did you know from that angle and a fast look your car looks a bit like the batmobile? I'm serious lol

**Matt Palm** · 10-21-2012

i get that your pissed but seriously it was $110 not that big of a deal you will still live you blow this way out of proportion you act like you just got you left nut cut off

**blackspike2710** · 10-21-2012

Originally Posted by Matt Palm

i get that your pissed but seriously it was $110 not that big of a deal you will still live you blow this way out of proportion you act like you just got you left nut cut off

If $110 means so little to you why don't you throw some my way. It's the mans money, he has the right to be pissed.