Im going to go ahead and buy these. I cannot pass them up; however they are used with 12k on them, not new like I thought. I have inspected them and they look new though. This, and the ported TB I want will help greatly with the times Im trying to achieve. If I cant get a ported TB like today or tomorrow, I guess I will have Reptile do mine. I already sent him a PM and am awaiting a response. Anyone got a ported TB just lying around???Ha ha