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    Just finished replacing my O rings on my fuel fittings. The hardest part was removing the black plastic retainer in the fitting. I used a paint can opener and it worked pretty well. Only problem I had was that when I pulled out the black retainer, it resisted at first, and then "popped" out, and flew across my garage. Luckily, I found it. Putting the new "O" rings in was easy. And, no fuel leaks after re-assembly.
    Thanks for the write-up on this...it really helped...
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    Glad I could help you out Mr. Ghost.
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    yeah, definatetly don't put so much force into getting the retainer out that you make it go somewhere u cant find. Mine just popped out on one side, so i knew it was close to coming out, so i was gentle working it out. also, it helps to put a giant cloth or something across the top of the engine bay so it doesnt fall down in the engine somewhere
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    Anyone else have success and recommendations with using the O'Reily o-ring package set for replacing the fuel line connectors o-rings? Is there a better match out there? Having a hard time matching, the old rings came apart in small pieces as I pulled them out.
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    You would be better off switching your lines to stainless.
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    New disconnect is $10 or less.
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    Matt5112, Where can you get "new disconnect", thought GM required purchase of the entire fuel line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by relivenyouth View Post
    Matt5112, Where can you get "new disconnect", thought GM required purchase of the entire fuel line?
    Oreillys has the disconnects trust me I used one when I replaced the engine the 1st time in the black 4 door I have. And the injector orings has been a known problem for a long time.

    Ohh did I mention my Regal GS burned down in April and Im 110% sure it wasnt due to leaky valve covers or injecotr o rings being bad I have the rydell chevrolet repair reciepts that were done from the owner before me, which also was a factor why I got away not having to pay for the damages done to the garage when my car burned down.

    Showed the papers from Rydells to the fire department when they did the investigation and I was not held liable for the vehicle fire. Not caused by me nor was it negligence. Also the Fire department blamed it on a transmission line. I still 110% believe thats BS becasue the fire started and was the hottest behind the passneger headlight.

    Whats behind the headlight on the passenger side? Battery, and fuse box. Ive seen at least 3 W body fires, 2 other cars in a yard where I usually get some parts from both looked exactly like mine. Im blaming electrical on all 3 Ive seen but what the hell do I know.
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    Wow... I feel fail... I completely missed this thread somehow and the other ones linked (which are failed links now)...

    Fortunately when my engine blew last year we put all new o-rings on top and bottom of the injectors... as the tech and I are perfectionists and didn't want any leaks.

    Unfortunately I just crested 95k and the fuel rails have been disconnected multiple times (LIM repairs, gasket replacements, new engine, etc...) and the Quick Connect O-rings have never been replaced... someone say a prayer until I get them changed .

    I haven't as of yet smelled gas or noticed any leaks and I'm always checking fluids and playing under the hood, so I would notice... altho I DID remove the SC Cover and Hood Insulator, so fumes would probably just dissipate before I ever even noticed them. I Need to look into this

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSoldier View Post
    ...not scanning/monitoring your motor is like bangin a hooker and you just HOPE your not infected.
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    txslow6, do you mean replacing the entire line with braided stainless?
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    Quote Originally Posted by relivenyouth View Post
    txslow6, do you mean replacing the entire line with braided stainless?
    Yes. There is a write up in the how to section.
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    Man, about a year ago today I started smelling fuel and found a leak at the disconnect.
    I could not locate o-rings anywhere at all, no luck whatsoever.
    I ended up buying a kit at harbor freight of lots of random sizes, and ended up finding the right sizes in there.
    It was a huge pain to get them out, and even worse to get them in.. but I did it.
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    Oreillys sells the injector o rings as a pack of 12 believe they are from BWD if you people really insist I could find a part number.
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    The O'Reillys pack is already mentioned and pictured at the beginning of this link
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    All, found the correct Viton o-rings for the fuel line quick disconnects on the supercharged Grand Prix. They are working fine so far, no leaks! Bought them at AutoZone, looks like O'Reily's also carries. Call ahead, may have to special order. Recommend also buying the mechanics pick set (dental like angled pick, very helpful with removal)
    Dorman #800-013 (2 @ 5/16 & 3/8)
    http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-30428-800-013.aspx

    Good replacement "how to" is found in this forum on this link:
    http://www.grandprixforums.net/injector_oring.php
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    Nice to know this was a problem for others too.I actually had fuel in my lower intake pockets when i changed mine That was two years ago when it only had 208k on it...lol. That rear connect just gets so much movement from the motor rocking.BAD DESIGN
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    I used the dorman nylon lines. Part # 800-58.
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    Man glad I came across this. Bumping for a nice weekend project
    Great info
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    If you have the Harbor Freight O-ring assortment those are fine too, since the kit contains both sizes. Nitrile O-rings are OK to use with fuel also, see this article on using them in carburetors.
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    i found a set of assorted vitan O rings, they are fuel rated. the black ones are not, they will fail over time. found them at napa.

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