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    Quote Originally Posted by Swash View Post
    It isn't about the HP you're "losing" - it's about the KR that you're not gaining. A 3.5 can actually give a higher gain in HP because of the lack of KR that comes with it. Case in point - if you currently run a 3.4 with 0-2* of KR at WOT - and say you run 13.9-ish. If you take that same car and put a 3.3 or 3.25 on it - you will likely run slower - because the increase in KR that is going to rob HP. In my '02 GP I had 1.9 RR's, 105# springs, 3" DP, PEM's, FWI, NGK plugs, ported SC and ported TB, 3.29's and shift kit - all on a fresh rebuild that ran a 14.0X on a 3.4 pulley on a 90* and humid day - it would have run 13.8X easily, but I forgot to turn on performance shift in the PCM . It had a DHP v1.0 tune with only trans tweaks to accomodate the 3.29's. I had only blips of KR at WOT, so I decided to drop to my 3.25 and run. I ran almost .2 slower - and had 4*-6* of KR at WOT. With the 3.4 - had I had perf shift enabled - I would have seen 13.8X at 100+ without anything more than a canned tune. With further tweaking, I would have been able to drop to a 3.3 or 3.25 and gotten to maybe 13.6X.

    The point I'm trying to make is - there are a lot of cars out there that pop soon after a 3.4 pulley is installed. It's the most popular "instant gratification" mod out there and damage occurs mostly due to ignorance as to the potential consequences. A 3.5 will still provide a noticeable gain - without the huge jump in KR that typically comes with a 3.4.

    Getting off my soapbox now...

    -Swash
    what exhaust mods did you have with your 3.4 setup? Just curious because I was going either PLOG or headers with DP and never plan on going beyond the 3.4 setup. Assuming you have no knock it would be safe on a 3.4 in your opinion? So basically just using a 3.5 to play it safe. I am completely stock on the pulley and never have any knock yet......always O.O........good for now.

    Saw you had PEM's and DP........missed that the first time around....Do you think you would have any KR if you had either headers or PLOG?
    Last edited by Liquifire; 08-05-2009 at 03:23 PM. Reason: exhaust question was already answered in previous post
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