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  1. #1 Deleting U-Bend. Easier to keep the O2 or Not? 
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    So, I have a issue. My U-Bend is cracked and its throwing a code. I'm trying to figure out if I remove the O2 do I have to get a tune etc or should I have a spot for the O2? Which is easier. I need it done asap. I tried to talk to a shop and they said it'll throw the code even if I deleted the U-Bend
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    Ummmmm im running u bend delete and I has no code. The only problem you could have is if you remove thw rear o2 then it set a code. Just delete the u bend it will be fine
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    So the sensor thats in there I can just unplug and it won't throw a code?
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    If you unplug the sensor you will get like 4 codes.

    It's easier to buy a 2 dollar o2 sensor bung and weld it on to the new pipe and put the sensor back in.

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    What codes are you getting?
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    Mines unhooked and I'm only getting one code. I'm catless as well. Wonder if I plug it back up will it show the cat code?

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    You won't throw a code for deleting the u bend
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    If its a 97-00 just have a pipe welded in and run without the 02 sensor. If its 01+ you need to keep the rear 02 or you will have problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick2500 View Post
    If its a 97-00........run without the 02 sensor.
    Can you clarify? Do you mean:
    1.) You can run without rear O2 and NOT throw a code
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    2.) You can run without rear O2, throw a code, but still run fine

    I have a 2000 GTP and I'm subject to emissions testing. If I have a MIL, I don't pass.
    I'm looking to install headers in the near future, and knowing this could help me.
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    97-00 can run without the rear o2 and be prefectly fine but the SES will always be on. Unless the codes are set to no report inside the PCM with a tuner.

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    To add to what Cam said, in 01 they added a cat diagnostic test that runs every so many seconds, when it does this and doesn't get a reading from the rear O2 it gets stuck on and just dumps fuel.
    If you don't want the MIL to be on just buy an 02 sim from zzp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch View Post
    97-00 can run without the rear o2 and be prefectly fine but the SES will always be on. Unless the codes are set to no report inside the PCM with a tuner.
    Thanks for clarifying!

    Quote Originally Posted by Slick2500 View Post
    If you don't want the MIL to be on just buy an 02 sim from zzp.
    I think this ^ will be my plan. I was hoping to use the rear O2 bung in the headers for a wideband O2 gauge.

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    I still didnt get it done yet but It's a 98 so I guess its cool.w
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