on my real pacesetters the cross over fit horrible as well. had to bend it out
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on my real pacesetters the cross over fit horrible as well. had to bend it out
ZZP headers look pretty good.
If you want to spend the money, and only have to bend the trans dipstick tube.
If the OP wishes I remove the picture clutter, I will. :th_king-normal:
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I'm not sure what coating the PO of my old pacesetters used.
However they never flaked and were cool to the touch in 15 minutes after running.
SD's I have now are hot for hours.
Now I'm nervous... Ceramic Coated Pacesetters are in transit to me as I write this... lol, Fit issues with the crossover? :(
I went with the Pacesetters cause the larger diameter pipes... I hope I don't have a problem, lol, got two tubes copper RTV and SS band clamps ready!
You'll have fun putting them on. GL
The y pipe is a ***** on pacesetters as well. My buddies slipped apart under heavy acceleration, then came back together
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Lol, you mean like everything else on thr GP that SHOULD be an easy 10 minute job... hahahaha
:) so far everything's has been a PIA.
OMG, hahaha... I ordered the band clamps to hopefully avoid any issue like that.
Ok time for the stupid question... is there a problem welding the Ceramic Coated Headers? Anything I should know? I have someone close by with a welder, if needed.
On the pacesetters it's not a slip fit it has flanges that bolt together doesn't it? If so you don't need those band clamps. I did my speed daddy's in about 8 hours with every fricken bolt rusted on and having to cut most of it apart.
I'm not sure on the pacesetters because i haven't ever messed with them but I'm thinking a lot of people have to grind on their trans some.
pacesetters are both some of it is slip fit some of it is bolt together. i had to bash in the fire wall of my 01 GT pretty good to get the damn o2 to clear and even then it would wack the floor when i went WOT untill i got the polly engine mounts
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i highly recomend welding the crossover, y-section, and rear header together to form one piece. also the paper gaskets suck
Never had that problem with pacesetters and an NTK/NGK O2 sensor.
i used a brand new GM one. unless the NGK is 5" shorter it would not of helped lol
what about the C5 o2 sensor ? it is shorter but needs the some wires switched around
I looked at the c5 o2 sensor at autozone and it looked the same as the one for my gtp.
when i compared it was 1/2in shorter?
i said I DONT LIKE ****ING CHROME
and the proof is in the pudding
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I saw the eBay ad advertise larger primaries too but another forum claimed it was a typo.
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Togs togs togs lol. My coating is 30k miles old. Looks new still
Just don't mind my temporary bones while my billet ones where getting polished ;)
With pacesetters you might have to notch off a piece of casting off the trans under the crossover. Some need to, some don't. Not sure why. I hade to, did a set a few weeks later on another 04 and didn't have to. Ill shot a pic tomorrow for ya
Thanks, pics would be appreciated :). Was the tranny tube an issue? What was done to accommodate it?