Thread: Another GM recall for 3800 engine fire

So how can we fix the problem as cheaply as possible. I know. Instead of fixing the leak we will move the wires so it will drip on the ground instead of down to the manifold. Now several thousand more NTSB complaints, few more car fires, few more deaths. Hey I know how we can fix it. Rather then replace the gaskets, cause hey that's too expensive, why should we do things right, let's just remove everything out of the way that can catch fire.

Same with the ignition recall. Wait. Rather then replace a defective ignition switch let's just prevent people from using their key ring. Why fix the actual problem when you can just half a$$ the repair!

Don't you just love GM! Shows you that money matters more then people's lives.

Originally Posted by brettstoner

So how can we fix the problem as cheaply as possible. I know. Instead of fixing the leak we will move the wires so it will drip on the ground instead of down to the manifold. Now several thousand more NTSB complaints, few more car fires, few more deaths. Hey I know how we can fix it. Rather then replace the gaskets, cause hey that's too expensive, why should we do things right, let's just remove everything out of the way that can catch fire.

Same with the ignition recall. Wait. Rather then replace a defective ignition switch let's just prevent people from using their key ring. Why fix the actual problem when you can just half a$$ the repair!

Don't you just love GM! Shows you that money matters more then people's lives.

This is great.

Originally Posted by brettstoner

So how can we fix the problem as cheaply as possible. I know. Instead of fixing the leak we will move the wires so it will drip on the ground instead of down to the manifold. Now several thousand more NTSB complaints, few more car fires, few more deaths. Hey I know how we can fix it. Rather then replace the gaskets, cause hey that's too expensive, why should we do things right, let's just remove everything out of the way that can catch fire.

Same with the ignition recall. Wait. Rather then replace a defective ignition switch let's just prevent people from using their key ring. Why fix the actual problem when you can just half a$$ the repair!

Don't you just love GM! Shows you that money matters more then people's lives.

Well in actuality all car manufactures recommend not having a giant ring of keys as this does put unaccounted strain on the ignition switch.

Well you know that $2.56 Felpro valve cover on manufacturer closeout on Rockauto right now is too expensive. It is much cheaper to rip all that $h!t out that can burn than fix it right. I mean seriously. I should email the link to GM. Heck buy in bulk, get a discount, don't forget the 5% discount code, and they would have enough Rockauto refrigerator magnets for every GM facility in the world!

Originally Posted by idrivejunk

My white one did that due to a nice hole in the piston #1. Other than that ran fine lol

Originally Posted by Drive XR7

I see a lot of complaining about GM not fixing the real cause of the engine fire. What is the real cause?

IMO, the real cause is lack of maintenance. If your valve cover is leaking, it needs to be changed.

Originally Posted by Drive XR7

So the root cause of the engine fire is, indeed, the leaky valve cover?

Yes.

Recall #09047: Some of these vehicles have a condition in which drops of engine oil may be deposited on the exhaust manifold through hard braking.
Recall #15757: Oil leaks onto a hot engine manifold, which typically happens after “hard braking”.Engine oil that drips onto the hot surface of the exhaust manifold may result in a fire.

And apparently this is the 3rd recall on this issue. I wonder what the first fix was.

Originally Posted by Drive XR7

So the root cause of the engine fire is, indeed, the leaky valve cover?

The root cause is GM not fixing the issue right the first time.

Originally Posted by stealthee

The root cause is GM not fixing the issue right the first time.

I vote re-gasket the entire engine. Then my oil pan and rear cover can get fixed XD.

Originally Posted by stealthee

The root cause is GM not fixing the issue right the first time.

That is not the cause of the problem. LOL

Originally Posted by Drive XR7

So the root cause of the engine fire is, indeed, the leaky valve cover?

Small engine fires yes, the fires where the entire car goes up in flames is the fuel rail orings.

Why don't we merge this thread with the 50 other threads about this same issue?

Well the real cause in my book is this: gm took the lazy way out with building this engine. I don't thing the gave it enough testing time to "find" this problem out. And atm I think they don't give 2 sh!ts about this other than temp fixes to keep the lawers happy

One of the recalls was a new gasket, then the rear manifold heat shield, now i think its the valve cover.