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    Is it feasible to add traction control, or even worth it? Im looking for out of the hole improvement or would it actually hinder 0-60 compared to a good foot?
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    TC on these cars is useless. It can easily be "overpowered" so I wouldn't waste my time. I don't think TC is a replacement for good driving skills anyway.
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    It would hurt 0-60. As it pulls timing to acomplish it's results. If you are looking for better 0-60. Tires are where it is at. Tires then torque then weight reduction.

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    Have you modded the car at all? How long have you had it? Learning to launch it is deff a requirement of any vehicle. Wider stickier tires will deff help though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sven The Sexman View Post
    TC on these cars is useless. It can easily be "overpowered" so I wouldn't waste my time. I don't think TC is a replacement for good driving skills anyway.
    That's what I kinda figured. Can the 98+ Delphi even be switched on/off?
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    I believe everything other than 97 could. If you had a 97 GT you could switch it off...I overpowered mine just top swapped...with everything else done, it was useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z34Phoenix View Post
    Have you modded the car at all? How long have you had it? Learning to launch it is deff a requirement of any vehicle. Wider stickier tires will deff help though
    I thought it worked opposite of abs be applying the brake pressure to the wheel with least traction. Its all stock for now, other then CAI. Eventually I wanna get zzp headers, ported blower/intake, WBS intercooler, cam, etc. Im looking at some 245/45r18 bfg G-force comp-2's so hopefully that'll help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sven The Sexman View Post
    I believe everything other than 97 could. If you had a 97 GT you could switch it off...I overpowered mine just top swapped...with everything else done, it was useless.
    97 GTP's didn't have TC, only GT/SE. In 97 Pontiac was still using the early W body abs that couldn't manage the torque of the L67. However the GTP's did get a low trac indicator on the DIC.
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    I wasn't sure how the TC worked...just knew it was useless...if it were a DBW car, the PCM could close the throttle plate on you.
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    tc sucks. you dont want it. as far as i can tell it cuts engine timing when the wheels slip. ive been on hills in the snow, and the tc kicked in asap and i was pretty much stuck. the wheels failed to turn, and the engine sounded like i was on the rev limiter but it would only go up to 1500 rmp's.

    if my wheels slip in the rain the car losses 80% of its power too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sven The Sexman View Post
    I wasn't sure how the TC worked...just knew it was useless...if it were a DBW car, the PCM could close the throttle plate on you.
    Im not 100% sure either. I read about the 97 GP abs/tc a couple years ago so my memory isn't so sharp, but that's what I remember. I guess I don't know what DBW is lol.
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    dbw = driive by wire. new cars font have a throttle cable. its all wires and sensors.

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    DBW = drive by wire...electronic throttle...no cable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottydoggs View Post
    tc sucks. you dont want it. as far as i can tell it cuts engine timing when the wheels slip. ive been on hills in the snow, and the tc kicked in asap and i was pretty much stuck. the wheels failed to turn, and the engine sounded like i was on the rev limiter but it would only go up to 1500 rmp's.

    if my wheels slip in the rain the car losses 80% of its power too.
    Buick might be a lil different. I could have swore my dads 95 sc riv had tc (switch too iirc) and I thought I remember it groaning like abs when there was wheel spin, especially in snow. But that was 6yrs ago.
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    95 is the older generation, (not the same) the 97-04 regal works just like a gp.

    the facts still stand, tc and abs really suck in these cars, your better off without it. i turn my TC off if the road is wet at all. even if i need to make a hard start on to the highway. its off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottydoggs View Post
    95 is the older generation, (not the same) the 97-04 regal works just like a gp.

    the facts still stand, tc and abs really suck in these cars, your better off without it. i turn my TC off if the road is wet at all. even if i need to make a hard start on to the highway. its off.
    If your car had power Scotty, your TC wouldn't matter lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sven The Sexman View Post
    If your car had power Scotty, your TC wouldn't matter lol
    sad part is, the power that i do have still makes the TC turn on. forget trying to smoke the tires with it on too.


    actually the best way to describe tc activation in my car is, it falls on its face.

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