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  1. #1 How to get the the cam out?! 
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    How do I get the cam out of the car also I bought some ls7 lifters how do I tell the difference between those and the stockers?
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    I dropped the two bolts out of the passenger side sub frame. Had to remove about a quarter inch of metal under wheel well for clearance. Slid right out new one right in. 02 GTP
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    Thanks!
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    You don't have to do any cutting and I sure as hell don't recommend that.. You just gotta lower the driver side a bit and you'll have room. Get a jack and a stand completely remove the 2 passenger bolts then on the driver side use another jack underneath the subframe and loosen the 2 driver bolts a bit.. But don't losses it to much where the subframe is going to drop.. The jack and stand are just there in case..
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    I saw a thread once where the guy took a hole saw to the inner fenderwell........
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    Completely unnecessary....
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    did he use heat or a saw?
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    He used a hole saw.
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    Hole saw maybe extreme. It's not that hard to drop side of sub frame. Do what you want it's your car.
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    the only good option is to pull the motor
    most engines need the rear cover gasket replaced and while you have it out its nice n Easy to do the oil pan the valve covers and all the other gaskets that are probably leaking on a car with 100,000 miles
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    Quote Originally Posted by djudge1970 View Post
    Hole saw maybe extreme. It's not that hard to drop side of sub frame. Do what you want it's your car.
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    I was in no way condoning this method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbocharged400sbc View Post
    the only good option is to pull the motor
    most engines need the rear cover gasket replaced and while you have it out its nice n Easy to do the oil pan the valve covers and all the other gaskets that are probably leaking on a car with 100,000 miles
    This.

    Doing a cam install without pulling the motor, IMO is a billion times harder than doing it with the motor sitting on a stand. And like stated it gives you the ability to easily address the crap factory gasket set.

    Do it right, or don't bother. You cheap out and half ass stuff, and you'll get that same half assed reliability.
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    So do you guys replace the cam bearings when you change your cam on a used engine? Just curious. I know I wouldn't but I have seen plenty of people do that.
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    To do the cam bearings requires the special tool and removing the crank typically.

    I for one do not change them. Likely they should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    To do the cam bearings requires the special tool and removing the crank typically.

    I for one do not change them. Likely they should be.
    The cam bearings CAN be done in car...without pulling the crank...just like doing a cam swap... However, it's a GIANT PITA and I don't recommend it. I also recommend letting a machine shop do it out of simplicity sake. You take them the engine and most shops will do the bearing install for less than $100.
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    FWIW once upon a time a guy posted and gave us some helpful advice.

    If the motor is out of the car, turn it upside down with the rockers and pushrods out. Spin the crank once or twice and the lifters will push up and out of the way. You can do the cam w/o pulling the lifters this way.
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    yeah but if you don't pull the lifters how do you know if you don't have any damaged rollers ready to chew up the new cam....
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    You inspect the old cam.
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    roll the wheel of a 100k lifter next to a new/low mile lifter.

    and even if you dont replace em, you might as well pop em apart and clean all the sediment out of the checkball
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy3103 View Post
    So do you guys replace the cam bearings when you change your cam on a used engine? Just curious. I know I wouldn't but I have seen plenty of people do that.
    Sorry I meant to say I would replace them while I was in there. I would also replace the lifters and pushrods. I have put a cam in a buddies car without replacing lifters because he couldn't afford it and didn't want to wait. A week later one of them collapsed and it was clacking away. Had to pull it apart again.
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