INtense PCM vers Overkill

**jcprix** · 11-04-2008

Ahh ... don't be so fast to to put folks in buckets. In my case, I have a 150K mi DD 2K GT. Got the <0.080 hole in the emission error and now the air pump is dead. Getting a PCM with emission codes fixed gets me past inspection for less$$ than pump and less time than smoke testing the emission leak. It's good to know if a PCM company is decent ...or not.

**Soeasytobefake** · 02-23-2009

Originally Posted by Mikegotone'02

Tune the car 1-2 times?! i don't think so, i constantly change stuff on my car, it's not just air fuel, it's trans setting, cooling system settings, speed limiter settings, traction control, ect. Trust me there will be more than just 2 times you tune the car. The point of having it is so you can change whatever you need to on your car to maximise the hp output in any temperature. I would never pay someone 500 to tune my car, that's just stupid, nor would i let someone send me a pcm that "might" work on my car. Fuel trims are very important to get correct and a mail order pcm isn't going to do that imo. It's worth every penny to buy your own tuner and do it yourself. It takes quite a while to dial in fuel trims with my own tuner and to think that a mail or pcm will even get it close is.... haha... riiiiiight.

I have a ZZP PCM, and no complaints. In fact i love it. I bought it with their VS cam. I love the way the Tranny shifts, going from 3rd to 1st at 35mph. It really made a huge difference.
ALTHOUGH Ive yet to try anything else which leads me to this question. Everyone talks about performance between all of these guys, intence, zzp, overkill. I want to know about features. OVERALL what do you guys think about the overkill pcm? Ive done a lot of work to this car and i want something to make it all click, when Im WOT, and when Im just cruising. As i read through overkills list of features it seems to dwarf competitors (aside from being a locked tune).
Also after reading your post Mikegotone, i thought about just getting a tuner. I built the motor myself, and it would sure be nice to tune it myself too. Have you seen the overkill Pcm list of features? do you think it would be diffecult for me to go that deep into a Pcm as a first timer? Ill take it to a pro for A/F, i just want more functionality out of it.

**98GT3800** · 02-23-2009

I was getting ready to order a PCM from will... Now i read all your guys reviews i think i may get a friend to tune it, anyone in the northern KY are know how.... Close to Cincinatti.....

**1998xGTP** · 02-23-2009

Holy thread revival batman.

**98GT3800** · 02-24-2009

?? its only a few months old. lol... better than a few threads i revived from 07 haha

**99prixgt** · 02-24-2009

alot of old threads have been popping up lately.

**98GT3800** · 02-24-2009

my bad haha

**blueguy** · 02-24-2009

Originally Posted by IndeedSS

Not exactly correct.

These same guys telling you you should tune yourself are the same ones asking tuning questions on other forums.

PLEASE...how many different things have you had on your car. You are the most inconsistent person in the GP community I have ever came across...complaining about a rough cam (XP)...griping that Dave's Triple Edge Transmission shifts too hard. Really? It's a race tranny...

THOSE guys are the ones that discover everything and help people like YOU help you make your car run right. If they aren't allowed to ask questions then what is the point of trial and error? Ever think that is how the GTP community began anyhow?

Sure it might have been a older post but I'd like to add...without those people I wouldn't be anywhere NEAR of what I know today.

**98GT3800** · 02-24-2009

to my earlier comment does anyone live in northern ky that can tune, will drive and pay

**QwikGT** · 02-24-2009

its an automatic with it shift kit, its supposed to shift hard!!!!!
as for the PCM's ZZP's are junk, i had 3 crap out on me since the SSM90 kit, i went back to my INTENSE and had my new supercharged tables put into it by my tuner. for an off the shelf PCM i would go INTENSE and then have the car tuned by a reputable shop

**04CompG** · 02-24-2009

98GT3800,

Paul at PRJ Performance can tune. Hes in Morristown, IN. Google PRJ Performance and you will find his contact info. I'm heading down there next month for a tune.

**98GT3800** · 02-24-2009

Hey thanks 04compG, just made an appointment with him, but its a bit over an hour and a half drive. So ill get to enjoy my tune on the way back. anyone interested in his prices, 50 for a PCM tune. 50 to weld bung and plug in downpipe, and 25 an hour for Wideband tunes. he sounds pretty knowledgeable.. Save me 100 on ordering pcm. plus i can get more done.. thanks for the link...

**blueguy** · 02-25-2009

Originally Posted by QwikGT

its an automatic with it shift kit, its supposed to shift hard!!!!!
as for the PCM's ZZP's are junk, i had 3 crap out on me since the SSM90 kit, i went back to my INTENSE and had my new supercharged tables put into it by my tuner. for an off the shelf PCM i would go INTENSE and then have the car tuned by a reputable shop

heh, I went through FOUR...AND a rebuild

**blowfishRus6** · 02-25-2009

yea im thinking about going with an intense pcm to get a basic tune then go have it tuned since its not locked.

i hear great things about overkills pcms but i would like to tune when i want to.

**98GT3800** · 02-25-2009

GUess i see what hes like this weekend. hopefully he can fix my air fuel and tune and i can get better fuel mileage also---down to 14mpg, fresh tune up didnt help at all.

**blueguy** · 02-26-2009

try the heavy right foot delete mod...that seemed to help me more than anything

**98GT3800** · 02-26-2009

it dont work. tried taking shoe off for less wieght and wind restistance on the pedal, didnt work either. only thing left is to remove the whole right leg.

**blueguy** · 02-26-2009

Originally Posted by 98GT3800

it dont work. tried taking shoe off for less wieght and wind restistance on the pedal, didnt work either. only thing left is to remove the whole right leg.

You might try the plastic prosthesis swap and see if that helps with MPG too due to aerodynamics and materials of the leg