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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    How does an tuned PCM fix KR?
    Because.

    It does.

    If Stock tune or canned PCM is setup for "X" mods but you've got "X" mods + "2.0 dealywhopper"...then you need to tailor the PCM to it.

    C'maaan guy.

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    ARE YOU SERIOUS?????? Do you know what DETONATION is? Knock Retard (KR) is just a result of detonation. By adding fuel you compensate for the added boost the calibrated MAP sees. This is what the tuned PCM does. Im done before I get banned from here.
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    PCM doesnt use MAP unless the MAF has failed.

    If the MAF sees more air and the fuel and air models are correct, the PCM will know it needs more fuel and deliver the correct amount of fuel.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by t24moore View Post
    ARE YOU SERIOUS?????? Do you know what DETONATION is? Knock Retard (KR) is just a result of detonation. By adding fuel you compensate for the added boost the calibrated MAP sees. This is what the tuned PCM does. Im done before I get banned from here.
    No brutha.

    I see where you're coming from.

    There is just only so much fuel you can add to where either the pulley drop becomes too much for the car and you need to toss on a larger size...OR...get more flow mods on it.

    Which is why I've always been a fan of a larger pullied, leaner, higher timing car...than a richer, stock~ish tabled timing car on a smaller pulley.
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    So you know this but dont know how a PCM can fix KR?? Wow.......and the PCM does use the MAP. If the MAF fails then the car runs off of a VE table. Its amazing you guys give advice but dont know what youre talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t24moore View Post
    So you know this but dont know how a PCM can fix KR?? Wow.......and the PCM does use the MAP. If the MAF fails then the car runs off of a VE table. Its amazing you guys give advice but dont know what youre talking about.
    Fuel and air calibrations are a tad specific to the engine and I clearly stated the MAP is used in MAF failure.

    So again, how does a canned PCM kill knock other than drowning it in fuel?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    No brutha.

    I see where you're coming from.

    There is just only so much fuel you can add to where either the pulley drop becomes too much for the car and you need to toss on a larger size...OR...get more flow mods on it.

    Which is why I've always been a fan of a larger pullied, leaner, higher timing car...than a richer, stock~ish tabled timing car on a smaller pulley.
    I understand this, thats why I feel starting with a 3.5 would be optimal with those mods and scan scan scan. People do get pulley envy. Ive personally seen people run faster by pulleying up and adding more timing. Its just that back in the day may of us ran 3.4s with zero issues with the mods that I have listed. The OP even said it himself that over at 3800 pro they have told him the same thing. What makes this site different outside of a lot of newer people here who dont know what they are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    Fuel and air calibrations are a tad specific to the engine and I clearly stated the MAP is used in MAF failure.

    So again, how does a canned PCM kill knock other than drowning it in fuel?
    Look man learn what detonation is. If you add air you must add fuel! How is that drowning it in fuel? When you pulley down the car will run leaner plain and simple. And the VE table is used when MAF values are not present. Do you know the difference between the two sensors???
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    but if you keep adding fuel until it becomes TOO rich then its pointless to even run the smaller pulley. because by that time you are robbing potential power, instead of just running it more lean on a bigger pulley.
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    Drowning in fuel bogs the car down making it slower than running a bigger pulley leaner.
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    Does a vehicle that is tuned in the spring or fall run leaner in the summer and richer in the fall?
     

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    That last part is a 110% truth.

    The community is full of 16~ year olds who just want more boost.

    It's the luxury Honda forums is what we got here.

    I did that back in the day too, when running 160*'s, PEM's, Race pellets/gas, AL103's were the cool thing to do. It worked then...but there are just more level headed ways to go about it now, IMO.
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    I give up, clearly you guys dont know what youre talking about. I can see if I was telling the guy to run a 3.3. But he should have no issue running a 3.5. Im a fan of timing over boost myself.
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    Clearly you're trolling.
    Whine with your Cheese?
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    No I dont troll. Thats for kids, im 30 years old and dont have time for that garbage. And now you all are talking garbage in the chatbox? LOL this site is just as bad as GPONA.
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    Then pack it up mister, because you're just going against the grain here.
    Whine with your Cheese?
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    LOL I go where I please. Build something better than a rockered 3.2 then come talk to me kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t24moore View Post
    No I dont troll. Thats for kids, im 30 years old and dont have time for that garbage. And now you all are talking garbage in the chatbox? LOL this site is just as bad as GPONA.
    You've yet to answer any of my questions and just say I'm wrong.

    How is that any better?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by t24moore View Post
    LOL I go where I please. Build something better than a rockered 3.2 then come talk to me kid.
    I'll build what i please. Mod smarter, Not harder.
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    Why is this stupid thread still alive?
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