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07-16-2011
I no u have all heard it before .. but iam looking at headers for my 2004 GTP Comp G and i was looking at zzp headers i mean there like $800 but i take it u get wat u pay for but i dont really no much about zzp. but i was also looking at pasesetters and i have allway heard great things about them . and a friend to me about speed daddy headers? any body no any headers that will fit. and r well priced and still give u the max HP and TQ??? any info is good info. thank u for ur time!
07-16-2011
speed daddys are the way to go. replace the flex section, buy better clamps and some rtv, and you have invested maybe $300-$350 and have great working headers.
if this sounds to cheap for you and you want a more out of the box quality feel then maybe try WBS headers. theyre the cheapest of the vendors. and not to mention a great vendor.
07-16-2011
agree
07-16-2011
+3
Speed daddy's are the best for the money
07-16-2011
I've installed just about all the headers. Pacesetters seem to have major sealing issues until you weld parts. ZZP headers were a pretty straight forward install although the egr tube location on them is mighty high and I'd be careful when bending that tube that much. Speed Daddy's work well, you need to adjust the firewall and pick up better clamps. If you don't want a ticking flex..replace that while you are at it.
There's a how to thread on installing headers ...at least I think I did one. Mentions lowering the subframe to install. It's the best way I've tried so far.
07-17-2011
I just installed some SSAC headers (Speed-Daddy) and let me tell you they fit really nice without any major issue. Like BillBoost said, you will have to replace the flex section if you don't want the ticking sound. I left the original flex, and somehow I like the sound, sounds like those old over-powered muscle car hehe
About performance, it is a great upgrade and since you have a 2004 GTP, you will be able to drop pulley size safely until 3.6". Don't forget the cooler thermostat, the intake and the pcm upgrade, as well as colder plugs (AL104 is the way to go) Torque/Power is greatly increase will all those mods, I would say about 40HP/TQ.
Have fun, and enjoy the boost!
PS : +4 on the SD Headers!
07-17-2011
+5 for SD headers
I had the V-band moved above the flex section so when there is an issue with the flex all I have to do is drop the downpipe.
I also had a O2 bung welded on the opposide side of stock SD headers, near the crossover, as far forward as possible. This gives ~ 3/8" clearance for a wideband o2 sensor.
The stock SD headers o2 interfered with the firewall and I ended up using an old jackstand and a 2"-2.25" reciever hitch adapter to dent in the firewall for using this location as well. (I heard some use an air hammer, mine was not powerful enough)
07-17-2011
The most torque and hp for exhaust would be a turbo kit. I mean of someone is willing to pay $800 for headers what's $1200 more for a used turbo kit.
Kidding, header prices have come down so much over the years. Buddy has SD headers on his Regal and loves em'.
07-17-2011
The speed daddys are'nt 1 3/4 primaries though,that's the only major thing I noticed on them.
My friends ssac headers and my pacesetters both have 1 3/4 primaries. So idk.
07-17-2011
but they are...
07-17-2011
so you can confirm that the speed daddy are 1 3/4 primary despite being clearly labeled 1.5" in about every place i can find for them?Originally Posted by matt5112
07-17-2011
If only there was a thread stating the pros and cons to the different brands of headers.........
07-17-2011
wow well thank u for all the info .. now to start doing some Homework ... thanks guys
07-17-2011
The description of the headers states 1 3/4 the pic states 1 1/5 so i'd email the seller first just to be sure. Imho.
07-18-2011
I have SSAC's no complaints. Turbo Kits, Turbo Manifolds, Import Performance Products, SSAutochrome Inc..
They are what the Speed Daddy's are modeled after.
07-18-2011
Those 97-03 headers on SSAC will fit my 2004 GP CTP comp G??
07-18-2011
Yea it's the same motor just updated some.
07-18-2011
oh iight... sick. price aint to bad either haha.. thanks man!
07-18-2011
No Prob!
Just went and looked at the site HOLY SH!T ! They price dropped alot!
I paid $349.00 2 years ago.
07-18-2011
damn yeah ****s dirty cheap now haha i wonder y haha i man they look just as good as any other set of headers qulity wise?? lol its w.e. tho i gotta get those haha
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