Thread: 430+ whp on an m90?

there is no doubt in my mind that his 430 whp m90 car is an absolute monster and youll never get the same feeling from a turbo car. rant all you want about how a turbo car would be better, but he still holds the fastest and most powerful m90 car records. FYI, even with lower power, he still runs much faster than 99% of the turbo guys considering his car runs 10s and is one of the only m90 cars to ever do that.

make you think differently? probably not, but my point has been made.

Originally Posted by 02GrandPrixIraqVet

well breaking records is cool but i cant justify the money they have into the car.

It is his car...not yours...not your money...why are you some damn concerned about it? Get over it.

Originally Posted by 02GrandPrixIraqVet

Their are cheaper routes to go to get the same results.

Think you got your point across on that in your past 87 posts about it.

But why would anyone want to drop money into the car that started it all for his business? I don't get it, it's like you have all this money, why not sell your most prized possession and get more money? Why would you want to dump more money into a m90 car when you have tons of other turbo cars and setups to play with all day?


lol jk get over it. He does what he wants. O, and he didn't just go to 430whp... it's around 464whp right now with room to go... ZZ Performance

we are talking about mods here not money, he wants the best M90 car so that what he gets

...and parts and tools and a track and a garage and....ya everything he needs

Not to mention it gives him a platform to develop parts for.

No ****. People barely break 350whp with a decent cam, genV and a nice intercooler on a high compression block. Every horse after that is $$$$.

A car that I tuned and helped build made 373whp and 398wtq on e85 with:

XP cam + springs
Ported Gen3 on 2.6 pulley + N*
Old design Wbodystore intercooler, ZZP front mount, and a $20 Walmart bilge pump for fishtanks
SSM90 LIM
STOCK L36 block
STOCK timing chain
STOCK L36 heads
STOCK 4t65e non-HD transmission

Everything was bought used and he didnt spend much money on the car at all. He gets valve float and was running out of fuel pump so his dyno dropped off. Id bet money that we will hit 400whp on a stock L36 block with stock L36 heads once we get the few kinks worked out. That being said, he needs a built transmission before he can get good track times.

E85 isn't available in many places and doesnt really count.

Bull**** it doesnt count - ZZP/Zooomer made their newest numbers on E85... does that count? Hell ya it does.

Its a widely available fuel that ANYONE can put in their car for LESS money then pump gas. It costs LESS to set up properly then meth and LESS then a large properly set up shot nitrous. There are three E85 stations in Houston that I know of (a very large city by the way) and I know of at least 12+ cars that daily drive their cars on E85 and even more that have weekend cars on E85.

Originally Posted by Tengis

Bull**** it doesnt count - ZZP/Zooomer made their newest numbers on E85... does that count? Hell ya it does.

Its a widely available fuel that ANYONE can put in their car for LESS money then pump gas. It costs LESS to set up properly then meth and LESS then a large properly set up shot nitrous. There are three E85 stations in Houston that I know of (a very large city by the way) and I know of at least 12+ cars that daily drive their cars on E85 and even more that have weekend cars on E85.

Cool, what if you can't get any E85? Kinda pointless. Your gas mileage also goes to dick when you run it.

Not saying it can't make power or isn't a viable option.

Originally Posted by Tengis

Bull**** it doesnt count - ZZP/Zooomer made their newest numbers on E85... does that count? Hell ya it does.

Its a widely available fuel that ANYONE can put in their car for LESS money then pump gas. It costs LESS to set up properly then meth and LESS then a large properly set up shot nitrous. There are three E85 stations in Houston that I know of (a very large city by the way) and I know of at least 12+ cars that daily drive their cars on E85 and even more that have weekend cars on E85.

I'm not driving two hours out of my way just to fill up on E85.

I'd burn a quarter of a tank getting there and another quarter getting back, then I'd have half a tank to use before having to use that last quarter to drive back there....

Seems like some terrible logic if I do say so myself...

I've been running e85 all summer and there is only 2 stations in all of NJ that sell it. I take three 5 gallon cans with me each time so I'll have some backup at home, and not have to drive out of the way all the time to get it.

E85 is some good stuff. I went from running 15psi on 15* of timing to over 20psi on 18* of timing by just switching to e85. I could probably run even more boost/timing, but I run out of injector over 20psi.