Thread: deciding between headers

aw man, i didnt get to put my .02 in yet...

ALL HEADERS HAVE THEIR DOWNFALLS! the cheap slip fit headers are hard to install. the expensive slip fit headers are alright, but expensive. TOGs and S&S are the only non-slip fit headers. i have ran both sets and i like my S&S better.

SLP and SSAC have some retarded downpipe design with a weird bend that you WILL hit on things in the road and destroy it.

Pacesetters are okay, but the two into one design at the downpipe has got to be one of the dumbest things i have ever seen.

ZZP...i dont know much about them at all, but ive heard good and bad things about them.

TOGs are a REALLY nice set of headers, but the crossover can be slightly harder to seal if youre installing them for your first time.

S&S....well, super easy to install and seal.

Originally Posted by QwikGT

jeff whats the plan rockers or cam?

hmm im not really too sure yet, were talkin way far on down the line here. but for now figure rockers i guess

Originally Posted by QwikGT

roller rockers FTMFW i got 1.8's in my car no complaints. gunna need those exhaust mods to drop them pullies!!!!

oh yeah, i know that... i personally plan to go with 1.9 roller rockers, i have no problem with putting in new springs and retainers along with it

if your putting in new springs then bump it up to 1.95..

Originally Posted by blowfishRus6

if your putting in new springs then bump it up to 1.95..

wow really? thats alot of lift

Originally Posted by 2000GTP

wow really? thats alot of lift

highest lift you can get with rockers..

TOGs have been around for about 8 years, I've had mine for 5 years and they were installed 3 times, never a leak. I sold them to a fellow member and his install went leak free as well. There are tricks to installing them like making studs out of the crossover bolts.

yea the last few times ive emailed zzp i get one word answers for there response.

Originally Posted by Bio248

highest lift you can get with rockers..

yea but are there any adverse affects of running that high lift?

Originally Posted by 2000GTP

yea but are there any adverse affects of running that high lift?

nothing besides the extra wear on the valvetrain that comes with ANY valvetrain mods (including cams).

Originally Posted by Bio248

nothing besides the extra wear on the valvetrain that comes with ANY valvetrain mods (including cams).

ok, and i sould get more power out of 1.95 rr's as opposed to the 1.9's?

Originally Posted by TDCRacing

No flippin way.


I just can't belive that.

I must have the best luck of all time. Just at the end of last week I was e-mailing their customer service addy for info on adding an extra bung for a wideband. Zooomer responded personally with plenty of info each time. Plus they're cutting me a great deal for it to be added in a good spot so I won't have to deal with it later.

Still, no complaints from me...

it was zoomer that gave me the one word responses.

Originally Posted by 2000GTP

ok, and i sould get more power out of 1.95 rr's as opposed to the 1.9's?

yeah, roller rockers add less strain on the valvetrain and the little more lift that you get will give a little more breathing room. they are probably a bunch better.

Then I guess he must like me or something. Or NAIOA since that's part of my sig.

Either way, I just figure it's fair to offer the good experiences with the bad.

true, and i was just offering my experense

if you ask in a formal way, you might get a better response.

im simply asked a question, and they simply gave me an answer. they probably could have gave it more attention but o well.

Originally Posted by Bio248

yeah, roller rockers add less strain on the valvetrain and the little more lift that you get will give a little more breathing room. they are probably a bunch better.

ok, when i do rockers looks like im doing the 1.95's, headers will be first though, most likely TOG's