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    you can buy the reservoir i used from me. aluminum, holds 1/2 gallon (which lasts quite a while). i had mine where the stock 97/98 coolant reservoir goes.

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    Sort of like that, this will be done here shortly (1-2 weeks) give me a month or so for tuning and other issues that may or may not need to be taken care of and i'll be able to post back with results whether they are good or bad.
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    any updates with that post blower setup?
    (i know old thread lol)
    Going back to stock *GRANT built trans BLOWN w/17k*
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    Bio. I'm running 50/50 Devils Own mix right now. I'm really thinking about jumping up to 100% Methanol. We have the tune tweaked a little right now. I'm not getting any knock with the setup below with the Meth off. It feels a little stronger with the Meth spraying. Is it going to be a noticable difference with 100% meth? And all the Devils Own stuff is rated for 100% meth correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikegotone'02 View Post


    Sort of like that, this will be done here shortly (1-2 weeks) give me a month or so for tuning and other issues that may or may not need to be taken care of and i'll be able to post back with results whether they are good or bad.
    It seems like a good idea to inject under the supercharger. However, on these non-intercooled engines its not needed and poses some possible problems. If you were running an air to water intercooler under the supercharger then yes. Yet still I would run injection before the supercharger as well as under it.

    For one your going to want to run solenoids right behind each nozzle. If you don't the engine is going to siphon fluid out of the lines all the way back to the pump or check valve/solenoid. Causing a potential to have a fluid line go dry for several feet causing a delay in the system as the pump will have to refill that empty line before it can pressurize the line and spray.

    Plus, by running it down under the supercharger like you have you need to be concerned with distribution problems. If you spray it above the supercharger the supercharger will evaporate much of the water methanol as it passes through it while also doing a really good job of dispersing it evenly out the discharge.

    Additionally, by spraying it under the supercharger your giving up the ability to cool down the supercharger case and housing. Also, when you inject where your at you'll want to make sure the IAT sensor is located where it can pick up the air temp drop from the methanol. That way if your tuning for the methanol you can set up your ECU to pull timing in the event the methanol runs out or stops working.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ais View Post
    It seems like a good idea to inject under the supercharger. However, on these non-intercooled engines its not needed and poses some possible problems. If you were running an air to water intercooler under the supercharger then yes. Yet still I would run injection before the supercharger as well as under it.

    For one your going to want to run solenoids right behind each nozzle. If you don't the engine is going to siphon fluid out of the lines all the way back to the pump or check valve/solenoid. Causing a potential to have a fluid line go dry for several feet causing a delay in the system as the pump will have to refill that empty line before it can pressurize the line and spray.

    Plus, by running it down under the supercharger like you have you need to be concerned with distribution problems. If you spray it above the supercharger the supercharger will evaporate much of the water methanol as it passes through it while also doing a really good job of dispersing it evenly out the discharge.

    Additionally, by spraying it under the supercharger your giving up the ability to cool down the supercharger case and housing. Also, when you inject where your at you'll want to make sure the IAT sensor is located where it can pick up the air temp drop from the methanol. That way if your tuning for the methanol you can set up your ECU to pull timing in the event the methanol runs out or stops working.

    Hope this helps.

    Rodney
    once again youre not completely correct. spraying after the blower allows you to actually use that meth in a similar fashion to running ethanol. you use the extra octane and the cooling effect in the cylinders. mike also had a small nozzle in the throttle body. before AND after is the best idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    once again youre not completely correct. spraying after the blower allows you to actually use that meth in a similar fashion to running ethanol. you use the extra octane and the cooling effect in the cylinders. mike also had a small nozzle in the throttle body. before AND after is the best idea.
    Please explain how I'm not correct and how running the methanol before the supercharger doesn't do exactly what you already want on a non-intercooled Eaton such as this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ais View Post
    Please explain how I'm not correct and how running the methanol before the supercharger doesn't do exactly what you already want on a non-intercooled Eaton such as this.

    Rodney
    you dont run meth to JUST cool the blower and intake charge. it cools the intake charge when sprayed post-blower, but doesnt cool the blower. if you do both, you solve both your problems. if you only spray pre-blower you end up wasting a lot of the meth just being burned up in the blower.

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    [QUOTE=Mikegotone'02;231446]


    so is this the set up your running now??? 2 nozzels, one on each end, on oppisite sides??

    no problems with distribution like this?? obviously not but if you have any tips on the set up or anything i would like to hear.
    white 04 comg G gtp. wizair, pacesetters, slp 1.8 rr
    its slow.
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