Thread: This is one reason people keep trying to do pullies first...

ZZ Performance

Opinions, rants and flames welcome...

I read the first sentence and then closed my browser.



ZZP sucks. Wether it be at customer service or sending my order out that was placed 2 1/2 WEEKS AGO!



And i'm going to stop before I really get out of hand on that.

Originally Posted by JoshMcMadMac

What were you expecting? That article is several years old, and it is the same place that promotes the boost-bypass mod.

So you're saying that they did not know any better back then? And if they know better now like I think you're trying to say then why did they not alter the misinformation they have up?


Along with the boost bypass valve mod. Belive it or not people still read this stuff.

Originally Posted by JoshMcMadMac

I am not justifying anything for them, just making a statement. Since SLP would toss a 3.5" on a pretty much stock GTP back when they were new, a lot of folks believe that to be a safe practice. We have figured out quite a bit since then, especially when it comes to scanning and tuning. Right, wrong, or indifferent, folks will have to learn one way or another not to trust just one input on a subject; Darwin was on to something, I think.

I agree for the most part except for it seems to be more than just one vendor that has this opinion (3800proformance).


ZZP still sucks.

Customer service is horrible. Here is a link I found after I had issues with them. I did a little search to see if I was the only one they treated like crap after dropping lots of $$$
Here is an example of what NOT to do if you operate a business;
ZZP needs advice... - Saturn ION RedLine Forums

Below are statements that Zoomer made. They may not be in order or made together. I will add that Eric know's his **** and is VERY good at his job. He has helped me 2 seperate times and was very satisfied with the effort that he put into it.

Originally Posted by TDCRacing

In the spirit of not bull****ting, I'm calling you out as a liar.



So produce the emails to prove this situation or shut up.




You are incorrect in saying that we should do everything to help a customer.


It’s our goal to help customers because without them, we cannot run a business.


I will admit that Tim gave poor responses. In fact, they were downright horrible. Tim did not explain the situation to you or give thought out responses and he should have. I apologize for this problem on Tim’s behalf because those replies are totally unacceptable.



Eric is our customer service manager and can be reached at eric@zzperformance.com.


That doesn't mean we have good customer service



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ZZP

Always something.

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Originally Posted by Zooomer
Do you guys think I'm some newb just making crap up?

Nay but you sure are starting to act like one...

I understand your concept of how you would lose 2 hp, but did you not forget the smaller pulley ADDED horsepower, more than 2.

I dont know whats up with ZZP lately, but they have been getting in ALOT of arguments, with customers and forum members abroad.

If Zooomer has friends, then one of them should be a "good friend" and take his computer away. The things this guy has said on forums is ridiculas. Hey Zooomer...these are the guys buying your parts YOU JACK A$$

I'll side with zzp on this one...

First of all, if the redline owner wasn't such a dumbass, he could have realized that reusing the stock manifold gaskets are sometimes better than getting aftermarket paper ones... I looked at my stock gaskets and the gaskets that came with my headers and your damn right i reused them.

Zoomer is a big guy, and no one can pronounce his real name, either way he stands behind his company name firmly. He also spends hundreds of thousands of dolllars in research and development on grand prixs, redlines, cobalts... Now how many other people out there would build their own companies up and produce countless parts for cars that shouldn't be fast at all. I sold my SHO and bought a grand prix for a reason, there wasn't ANY aftermarket parts for the SHO and now I have a grand prix with almost unlimited, proven parts. On the SHO forums, people would beg for someone to come by to develop parts for them, hell if someone wanted different cams on a v8 it was going to be $10,000 to start out with a test grind.

ZZP has to realize they are in a business of dealing with interest groups, they listen and actively participate on forums which is a good thing, but can also be negative, they get involved with disgruntled customers and no matter what they say or type, it almost always puts off a negative vibe to the reader. Its like our company's stock, Prudential stock was in the 90's-100's when some small paper out east put prudentials name on a list of companies that might need bailout money. People saw that article and the stock went down to 45 in one day. The information was in every way false and the company took a huge hit from that bull****.

Basically my point is, take the good with the bad, zzp makes some badass parts and we should thank them for it, and for their competitiveness in the market. They don't just go around making 8 second grand prixs for fun, they in turn help to make thousands of grand prixs go 13 seconds, hundreds go for 12 seconds and 11 seconds, a couple for 10 seconds.

Originally Posted by FoSHO99

zzp makes some badass parts and we should thank them for it, and for their competitiveness in the market.

Oh! You mean the're control arms that are right about 200 dollars over priced?



For an example of one of the over priced parts that zzp sells.

Originally Posted by TDCRacing

Oh! You mean the're control arms that are right about 200 dollars over priced?



For an example of one of the over priced parts that zzp sells.

It does seem a bit pricey for our grand prixs, but not many others make something like this for fwd cars. F-body's or mustangs can roll these out cheaper because they have a mass group of customers into fast cars. They also don't have to worry about how much power is going into that wheel since their not fwd. Lets just say at least they made them and didnt sell them for 600 instead...