Thread: Help me Build the fastest N/A 3800! Will keep updated

LOL. Seen em go for like 450 or less....

Entire top of a SC engine... Heads, Lim, SC ect.

IF you bargain hunt and get used parts you can grab a gen 3 m90 lim heads balancer and fuel rails for 300-400. rock out some headers, rockers and all the associated gaskets and a correct size pulley and you're rocking a 240-260 whp setup on gas on gtp injectors or close to 280-300 whp on big injectors and e85. all for less than 1200-1400.

Where as this mod list:
Plog
HV3
High Velocity TB
2.5" catless DP (no emissions where I live so it's extremely easy to get away with)
TR6
10.5mm wires ZZP
Bigger fuel injectors? Not sure if this actually does anything for HP.
ZZP GT cam unless I can get a more aggressive one. Not sure if they're compatible. OR rockers
and eventually,
ZZP heads.

Where else can I go with this?
Idea's? thoughts? I want to get started on this ASAP. I have a few basic things done
Straight pipe after the CAT
180T
CAI
TR6
10.5 wires

will run you well north of 2k.

I LOVE my top swap. Better than any NA setup on these cars garenteed. bone stock (no headers or rockers or anything) it ran 14.6 on crap tires.

What are your goals? If you are hell bent on NA most power, go read the internet until your eyes bleed on all the 3800 forums you can find. You likely will come up with tons of dollars spent for gains that could be had cheaper/easier on different options like turbo/SC.

I'm not going to sit here and tell you that the car sounds bad based on you straight piping it. My Regal with GTP catback (no res, high flow cat) sounds amazingly fine even on the throttle. It's an oddball. Most 3800's with any exhaust mods (and stock) sound like crap. They have rasp and drone. Your's might be an oddball too.

Many will tell you to turbo or top swap etc. Personally, I've learned a ton from this platform....and broken more than I like to admit. That's expensive and at the end of the day I gave up on the platform and sold off the performance stuff. There are many other cars that handle/make power better than the 3800/4T65 combo. That's not saying it doesn't do well for the mass produced setup that it is.

My car sounds like ass and it has stock mufflers lol

Originally Posted by blownGP

My car sounds like ass and it has stock mufflers lol

Yepp if you wanna stay NA like bill and a few others. Then put money into your suspension and have fun tossing it into some corners. I'm considering auto x my car

Originally Posted by theaceofspades

Yepp if you wanna stay NA like bill

Whoaaaaa ... Learn your cars buddy. I have a Regal GS. GS means... Granny's (FAWKIN) Supercharged I went NA when a whore left -$300 in my bank account and the choice was $300 for an NA with 50K or $700 for SC with billion miles.

Originally Posted by BillBoost37

Whoaaaaa ... Learn your cars buddy. I have a Regal GS. GS means... Granny's (FAWKIN) Supercharged I went NA when a whore left -$300 in my bank account and the choice was $300 for an NA with 50K or $700 for SC with billion miles.

Woahh not knocking lol and when are you gonna pm me back haha

^ not a gp basically lol
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Skip all that n/a crap and just topsaap or turbo and make more power then what your going to end up with.

Honestly if it was me I'd drive the n/a stock till I could afford a turbo and tep

Or just topswap because it can be done for cheap!

Originally Posted by REDCOMPG

Or just topswap because it can be done for cheap!

I would probably top swap. It's gonna be more reliable in the long run cheaper and can easily with a few bolt ons and a tune out smack the fastest NA