Thread: Built 4t65e - The results are in.

Originally Posted by 91parkave

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Thank you! Wait till I do an actual "How to rebuild a 4T65E" write up.

Originally Posted by Very Lost

How much you have in this all together?

I'd rather not say. I don't want it to get back to my wife. LOL! I think I did pretty well though. The really big ticket items (300m IS and 7/8' sprockets) were bought used in great condition. Everything else was purchased at the best possible price, found after a ton of searching. The only exception being, some of the stuff I got from the transmission shop here in town. For that, I chose to pay a little more, get it right away, and keep some of my dollars local.

I'm curious what people think I spent, or would be willing to spend on a unit just like this one.

Originally Posted by Spawne32

i expected that helicoil to give you a problem with leakage, that will leak overtime as the rubber gasket degrades unfortunately. The only real way to fix that permanently is to use a proper threaded insert, you can pick them up on mcmastercarr. Been down this road before with oil pans.

Well, I hope the HeliCoil does the trick, but I'm going to keep a close eye on it regardless. I feel pretty good about that Nylon washer. Time will tell.

I think that will be fine.

Idk, never built a trans. Rebuild plus upgrades, maybe 1,200? No maybe 1,500.

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I'd guess $1500-$1700. And that's about what I'd pay for a rebuilt upgraded trans

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Originally Posted by Very Lost

I'd guess $1500-$1700. And that's about what I'd pay for a rebuilt upgraded trans

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So you wouldn't pay for labor?

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Originally Posted by chrsmi1

But more importantly, this looks well done. Very impressive.

Thank you. I appreciate that. I really took my time on this one.

Originally Posted by 02NavyBlue

So you wouldn't pay for labor?

This was my reasoning for not throwing a cost number out. I know exactly what I paid for parts, but I didn't track the countless hours I have into:
Research
Chasing parts
Cleaning
Assembly
and so on...

That's gotta be worth something, right?

Originally Posted by BrandonHall10

Thank you. I appreciate that. I really took my time on this one.



This was my reasoning for not throwing a cost number out. I know exactly what I paid for parts, but I didn't track the countless hours I have into:
Research
Chasing parts
Cleaning
Assembly
and so on...

That's gotta be worth something, right?

You're exactly right nobody ever thinks of all the pouring over details and the amount of cleaning that has to go into cleaning a transmission for a rebuild. It's a lot of work and it would be more expensive for a person to do the work, than a shop, but you typically won't get the attention to detail that you would get or make sure the parts that you specify went in. I commend you for your documentation and details on this build. I would like to pick up another drivetrain and do the same, and I am sure that I will follow along with your build as a guide along with the materials. I haven't built an automatic transmission before so this will be a learning exercise for me.

Thank you for posting the details.

Jeff

Nice build. Looking forward to it getting installed and hear how good it performs.

With what 300m is go for, I would say at least 1500. Plus I'm assuming you'll eventually get an upgraded higher stall converter too, so add a few hundred to that.

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But more importantly, this looks well done. Very impressive.

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Hell yeah it counts, if you enjoyed it, that's just a bonus. Knowing everything was done just how you would like it is the real pro to doing that yourself

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Hell yeah! Cant wait to see if you do any others, its a great learning experience for all of us

fvck yeah for e85 car getting a solid nicely built trans!!!

Originally Posted by 02NavyBlue

Hell yeah it counts, if you enjoyed it, that's just a bonus. Knowing everything was done just how you would like it is the real pro to doing that yourself

You're absolutely right. Even on the things that really don't matter. For example, the orientation of the lettering on the reverse servo cap... Meaningless. But I made sure it was straight, because that matters to me.

Originally Posted by J57ltr

You're exactly right nobody ever thinks of all the pouring over details and the amount of cleaning that has to go into cleaning a transmission for a rebuild. It's a lot of work and it would be more expensive for a person to do the work, than a shop, but you typically won't get the attention to detail that you would get or make sure the parts that you specify went in. I commend you for your documentation and details on this build. I would like to pick up another drivetrain and do the same, and I am sure that I will follow along with your build as a guide along with the materials. I haven't built an automatic transmission before so this will be a learning exercise for me.


Thank you for posting the details.


Jeff

You're more than welcome. I had fun doing it. I appreciate all the input I received from other members who were willing to share their secrets and suggestions. I think that will benefit a lot of people. I tried to post as many pictures as possible, because I know that's what I like. What you didn't see is all the struggles. Like, the half hour I spent trying to get the 2nd piston down. I guess that builds character... Or something like that.

Originally Posted by keatonregal

Hell yeah! Cant wait to see if you do any others, its a great learning experience for all of us

Thanks! Glad you got something out of it. I can pretty much guarantee that will not be my last build. Especially if someone bites on my craigslist ad.

Originally Posted by ImNowTylerTibbets

fvck yeah for e85 car getting a solid nicely built trans!!!

E85 and Bronze mist. A good combo. Now I just need a cam and inter cooler.

Originally Posted by Dancing Bear

Tuning in to hear how it works out. You get two thumbs up from me!

Thanks! I'm really looking forward to putting it in. I'll finally be able to drive my car without holding back! Probably this spring. Not a huge fan of working in the cold.

I'm interested to see how a transgo kit works with a trans that has the clutches tightened up. In my mind, both of those will improve shift feel about the same, seems like a pretty performance oriented setup. Should be awesome

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Since you like tools, I'll suggest another tool.

Bracket to mount trans on engine stand. HF has four wheel stands on sale at times and a bracket is a piece of cake to weld up.

Basic 90 degree with a couple of pieces in the angle to give it added support






A buddy had given me a leftover piece of 1/4" stock. Sure it was way too thick for what I needed, solid though. If you play around with a hoist on it.. you'll find where to grind a slight notch for the perfect balanced lifting spot too.

I don't have a welder or trans either.

Literally. I took the piece off the stand. Bolted it to the lower back bolt. Then planned a piece up and another across. Including enough room for the fwd band servo to be in and still turn fully on the stand. Which was covered by using that back bolt and the arm from the stand.

Brandon realizes...I just went into the cases and found a bolt that worked for that. Snapped the other week for him.


A couple of trans only cases