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    Edit:

    Now that it's complete, here's the full build sheet:

    Master rebuild kit
    -New BW frictions, Raybestos steels, seals, gaskets, and filter
    PNH JTFM Torque convertor (Stock repalcement)
    Bonded separator plate
    Torlon check balls
    Oversize 2nd steel plates x2
    Molded 2nd apply piston
    Sonnax 3rd clutch piston kit (984965-01k)
    TEP reconditioned reaction carrier
    TEP reconditioned input piston
    300m iput shaft
    7/8" 2.93 ratio sprockets
    Borg warner PCS
    Borg warner TCCS
    Shift solenoid x2
    Superior AFL valve repair kit
    Superior valve body kit
    Sonnax TCC relief valve
    Sonnax lube tube clamp
    Trans-go shift kit
    Hardened 4th clutch hub
    ZZP aluminum pan (With improved steel threads)
    New 2-1 coast band
    New 7/8" Hy-Vo chain
    New 1-2 Sonnax shift valve
    New accumulator pistons
    New bushings (All of them)
    New thrust washers
    New Lube dam
    New magnets
    New drive sprocket bearing

    "Mods" Include:
    Modified shift kit spring arrangement
    Enlarged separator plate feed holes
    Tightened 2nd clutch pack
    Tightened 3rd clutch pack
    5 Friction input clutch

    See post #232 for it's real world review.



    Begin original post:

    This fall/winter, I'm planning on building a transmission for my car.

    Here's what I'm planning on using for parts:
    PNH Torque convertor
    Master rebuild kit
    -New frictions, steels, seals, gaskets, and filter
    All bands
    Bonded spacer plate
    Torlon check balls
    Oversize 2nd steel plates x2
    Molded 2nd apply piston
    Molded 3rd apply piston
    TEP reconditioned reaction carrier - Original is out of spec
    300m iput shaft
    7/8" 2.93 single chain set
    Borg warner PCS
    Borg warner TCCS
    AC Delco shift solenoid x2
    Superior AFL valve repair kit
    Superior valve body kit
    Sonnax TCC relief valve
    Trans-go shift kit
    Dorman pan w/ drain plug - Junkyard poked the original
    Hardened 4th clutch hub
    Differential lube tube clamp
    Lube dam
    Round magnet

    Here's the "mods" I plan to do:
    Tightened 2nd clutch pack
    Tightened 3rd clutch pack
    Convert to internal cooler check ball

    Here's what I'm debating:
    Bushings - Not seeing any substantial wear on the originals
    Drive sprocket bearing - Feels tight, but I'm told it's a common failure (?)
    Bonded sonnax 3rd apply piston - Because I'm right there

    The core transmission was pulled from a smashed junkyard '02 Regal with an unknown history. The only thing I know for sure is, 4th gear was gone (based on the completely absent splines on the 4th hub). No chunks in the pan, average amount of sludge on the magnet. Fluid looked.... average for a Tucson w-body. No burned or scarred internals.

    This setup is probably overkill for my current, or even future mods, but here's my though process: I'm going to pull and shelf my current stock, working transmission. Install the built trans and roll on that until I eventually move on from this car. At that point, I'll re-install the stock trans and sell the built trans as a low mile working unit. Hopefully for what I have into it.

    For what it's worth, I have all the time in the world to do this build. No rush on anything. I also have HP tuners, so I can make adjustments in the PCM to take advantage of all the improvements in this build.

    So what do you guys think? Is it a solid plan? What are your thoughts on the pieces I'm debating?
    Last edited by BrandonHall10; 07-20-2016 at 12:13 PM. Reason: Title change
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