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  1. #1 Multiple issues on 04 Grand Prix. Feeling aggrevated. 
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    We bought this car for my daughter about two months ago from a used car lot. Car had 101,000 miles on it. The first two days were just fine but after that we have had multiple issues. First thing was the ABS light came on along with the T/C light. I put a scanner on it and it had four codes for the front left wheel bearing/sensor. I ordered a hub assembly and went to put it on when I noticed one of the wires that goes to the speed sensor had a gash in it. So I went ahead and cut it and re-spliced it and did not put the bearing on. Cleared the codes and was find for the next two days. Now the lights are back on again. I have not been able to get to put a scanner on yet to see if the same code/s come back. I here there is some issue with this. The wire that broke was on the car side and not the bearing side. Not sure if related but when she was turning to the right the brakes would act up. More on that in issue three.

    Second issue was one night it felt like it died and then the engine revved and sped up on its own twice then died. Started back up and drove down the road and when I let off the gas pedal coming to a stop it died. Did that two more times and restarted but the last time before we got home it died and would not restart. Scanner showed MAP sensor was bad. Ordered a new one and all was fine for two days. Now light is back on but no issues with how it runs. Need to get to a scanner and see whats going on.

    Remember the last statement in the first paragraph. So tonight my daughter comes in and says that she had pushed on the panel under the steering column with her knee and it died on her. It restarted and she went to her friends house and when she got there she pushed on the panel again to see if it would die again. It did. Two months with this car and all these issues. Thought I had fixed the two issues and they lights came back on and now have a new issue. Is this newer model of Grand Prix prone to these problems. Getting really tired of it already. Have any of you come across any of these issues. I have heard that the speed sensor wiring has been replaced on a few of these as it may be a problem but also here about the hub assemblies needing replaced too.

    Can anyone give me some insight as what I am looking at. I can probably get a scanner tomorrow and check it out in the evening on two of the issues. Not really sure what to think about the car dieing when you push on the dash panel under the steering column. Could this be tied in with the brake problem when turning? I really hope this is not one of those wiring nightmare vehicles. Any help would be appreciated. This is my daughters car and want it safe for her to drive.
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    This is a GT2 with the 3.8l. Are there any known recalls on any of this stuff?
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    get it re scanned for the abs, hubs go bad the speed sensor is built into it. buy good hubs, like timkey skf, or moog. not the 30 dollar china crap hubs. you be changing them asap again

    the brake problem sounds like the abs is kicking in at low speeds, bad hub can cause that.

    pushing on the dash and it stalling is a new one. but it sounds like its maybe has a bad crank sensor, they will make the car stall driving down the road, then fire right back up, or not sometimes. almost never throws a code either. the tell tail sign is if you notice the tach dropped to zero before it stalled. then its a crank sensor for sure.

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    and how did you go about re splicing that abs harness? cut the wire back till you got to clean shinny copper wire, then soldered? or the old twist and tape?

    twist and tape sucks if thats what happened. and that could be why the abs light came back on too.

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    I didn't have a solder gun so I used a crimp and seal connector. Heated the connector up to seal it off (like heat shrink) then used a dab of liquid tape to make sure the ends were sealed. I did strip it back to nice clean wire. I know its not the right way to do it but better than twist and tape.
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    butt connectors suck, far from weather tight too.

    theres a how to solder vin in this link. best way to go about it. http://www.grandprixforums.net/showthread.php?t=73671

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    Check you ABS wiring again. Bye a soldering gun and shrink wrap.

    Get the car scanned again to see what the code is.

    Sounds like you have loose plug under the dash by your knees.
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    Okay so here is what I found out today. Put the scanner on and ran it through the engine, ABS, heater, IPC, and airbag side for codes. Lets start with engine. Came up with a C0035 which is the LF wheel speed sensor malfunction. This is what it had before along with a C0245-Wheel speed sensor frequency/EBCM control valve circuit. This one did not come back up. This shows up on the engine and ABS scan. Also have a P0420- Catalyst Efficiency low bank 1. I haven't done hardly any reading on this yet but one place points to possible bad cat convertor. Great. We will see what I can find out on this too.


    Next I scanned the heat and air side of it. Came up with a B0268-= Air flow control 7 circuit short to battery or open. Not sure on this yet. B0269- Air inlet door range error. We will see about this. I should note that daughter has been telling me that the heater has been making a loud noise. So today while I had the scanner on I started the car and ran the heater while waiting on the scanner. It made a couple of loud almost grinding type of noises pretty loud from the area of the blower motor. When this happened it didn't sound like the pitch or speed of the blower changed. Not sure if there is a motor that is trying to change a blend door or what. I switched the mode from defrost to floor to vent and no noises. I also want to say that everytime that the car is started the A/C light is on and you have to shut it off. Even with the heat set it comes on as soon as you turn the key on.

    Then I went into the IPC side of the scan and it showed up with a U1000- Class 2 Data link Fault. On the Air bag side of it there was a code U1096-Lost communication w/IPC/DIC
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    thats a damn laundry list. check the fan for something thats fallen out the back of the glove box and into the fan. its happened before.

    sounds like you need a new hub.

    im not much help on the rest of them codes. my clock spring was bad causing a open loop code for my air bag, ( if your radio controls on the wheel dont work, bad clock spring too) and the air bag module was also bad. its under the pass seat, and the carpet. some times you can un screw it and sand the edges up if they are corroded, makes it ground again like it should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottydoggs View Post
    thats a damn laundry list.
    No joke.
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    B0268-= Air flow control 7 circuit short to battery or open. Not sure on this yet. B0269- Air inlet door range error.
    These can both be related to damaged linkage of the air diffuser on the HVAC system. Try and activate the recirculation button and see if that is the door that is grinding. Either way, looks like you will have to do a bit of digging into the HVAC hardware, and I agree with Scotty, sometimes stuff falls back there and can wreak havoc.

    As for the hub, make sure to buy good stuff, and redo that wire connection. ABS is very sensitive, and it may not like that butt splice...do the re-splice properly before the hub just in case.

    With such a mixed bag of nastiness, I suggest a battery disconnection overnight, then see what returns. You never know how much of that may go away.

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    Looks like I will have to fix what I can and may have to run it into the dealership for a look.
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