Hid foglights

**Tyarne15** · 12-16-2014

Fairly new here so I hope there isn't already a forum about this subject, but I apologize if there is..

Looking to do either an HID or Halo fog light set up. Specifically looking to get a blue tinted bulb instead of a yellow/white

Is there any bulbs out there that are direct oem replacement that can be put into stock housings to be used? I understand some get too hot for the stock houSings but I just figured I'd ask!

Any links would be super awesome, preferably I woul like to just find some easy bulbs to swap out with the normal ones but I understand that may be easier said than done. Thank you in advance for any help!

**spazzz** · 12-16-2014

Back when I used to search......
880 bulb 6000 k and only 35 watts would be ballpark.
but what do I know, I don't have hids in mine....I don't need the flare

**02NavyBlue** · 12-16-2014

880 HID's swap in just like halogens (plus the ballast). A direct swap. In some cases, the small fog light housings have melted with even as low as 35w. Maybe in warm climates anyway. I was able to find 25w 880's so the chances of melting are slim.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I must warn, the fog lamps will glare pretty badly with hid's in them. Just like when HID's are put in headlights. I keep them off at night for that reason. They make good DRL's, looks really nice.

**Tyarne15** · 12-17-2014

Those ones in that Amazon link, did you buy that exact kit and hook them up? Reading the reviews I'm a little skeptical..

**Tyarne15** · 12-17-2014

Originally Posted by 02NavyBlue

880 HID's swap in just like halogens (plus the ballast). A direct swap. In some cases, the small fog light housings have melted with even as low as 35w. Maybe in warm climates anyway. I was able to find 25w 880's so the chances of melting are slim.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I must warn, the fog lamps will glare pretty badly with hid's in them. Just like when HID's are put in headlights. I keep them off at night for that reason. They make good DRL's, looks really nice.

Are the ones in that link above ones you used for your fogs? from looking at some of the reviews im kinda skeptical on ordering them because some people said they do not directly hook up like they say they do. also i see your from MI too? im in the lansing area man!

**Bronco Boy** · 12-17-2014

Originally Posted by 02NavyBlue

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

OMG some of those comments are hilarious.

**Tyarne15** · 12-17-2014

How so?

**Bronco Boy** · 12-17-2014

Originally Posted by Tyarne15

How so?

Take some time to read them. Lots of "they didn't fit", "the colour doesn't match", "I don't think they are HID".

Funny!

**Tyarne15** · 12-18-2014

Yeah i emailed the company and asked them if they truly are "plug and play" and the literally just copied and pasted the description from the posting on amazon and sent it to me... So my question wasnt answered and i dont think i will be ordering from them. I dont feel like tossing out $40 for something that may or may not work... Especially if they are not forsure plug and play, the amount of Negative comments compared to positive ones are enough to make me skeptical.

**FordMan77** · 12-16-2014

I've got HID bulbs in stock the housings. 35W. Been running them for a few years now with no issues or melted housings. I live in the country where dark roads are the norm and have no issue seeing at night. Never even bother using my high beams.

**02NavyBlue** · 12-16-2014

We're talking about fog lamps ^ Not sure if you were.

**FordMan77** · 12-17-2014

Originally Posted by 02NavyBlue

We're talking about fog lamps ^ Not sure if you were.

Yep, in my fogs. I adjusted them best I can and have yet to have anyone flash their lights at me. I've driven behind my brother and he said they were bright, but not blinding. I'm sure they glare since the housing isn't made for an HID light pattern but I'd rather have a bit of that vs. not being able to see sh*t on a clear, dark night on a 2-lane country highway doing 60mph where deer and other assorted flavors of vehicle damaging roadkill are common. Gotta love stock headlights.

I will eventually look into some projectors but until the funds exist and I find some this will have to do. And no, I don't always use my fogs. Just when needed.

**Bronco Boy** · 12-18-2014

Originally Posted by FordMan77

.....and have yet to have anyone flash their lights at me.

I never got flashed when I had PNP HID's, in both headlight and fogs. I used to run fogs in the day, and fogs and headlights at night. Well, two weeks ago I got flashed twice in one night with me retro's only on.

? I can see the cut off on the fawking ground! Stupid people!

Half the motorists on the road have no clue about lighting, so when they see something brighter than what the are used to seeing, they flash. Again, stupid people!

**nos4blood70** · 12-17-2014

Please just don't put HIDs in the factory housings.

**02NavyBlue** · 12-17-2014

Yeah. I put hid's in factory housings and am current working on a way to stop glare. Either mod the bulb to match the halogen design, or make projector fogs.

**02NavyBlue** · 12-17-2014

Honestly, my hid fogs do not make me able to see a single bit better at night. But its hard to compete against retros lol

**Bronco Boy** · 12-18-2014

Originally Posted by 02NavyBlue

Honestly, my hid fogs do not make me able to see a single bit better at night. But its hard to compete against retros lol

^ This.

**Tyarne15** · 12-18-2014

To be honest, im not really looking for a lot of functionality with the HID's mainly just for looks as i think that the HID's make the car look alot better and alot meaner.

**02NavyBlue** · 12-18-2014

Originally Posted by Tyarne15

To be honest, im not really looking for a lot of functionality with the HID's mainly just for looks as i think that the HID's make the car look alot better and alot meaner.

That's all mine are for right now. They look really good in the daytime, makes my car more noticeable, especially on days with an overcast.

One reason they glare so much is because the hid's don't have the light blocking front tip that the halogens do. So when you've got them on, you're looking straight at the HID bulb, which is never pleasant. The second reason is that the light source may not be in the exact same place as the old bulb, which causes the reflection pattern to change from the reflectors in the back of the housing.

Here's what our fogs look like

That tip stops you from looking directly at the filament.
In a housing:

If you were to scrape off that coating and re-install, the halogens would glare too. Probably not as bad as hid's due to the different light intensity. Then imagine moving the placement of the filament or hid, and the reflector would shine a different pattern.

With the stock bulbs in the housings, pretty much all of the light was projected in a beam that stayed out of oncoming traffic's vision.
You can see the beam here

With the HID's, the light output is completely changed. I get a full circle of light that extends way past the hid beam. Just to make things slightly better, I aimed the fog lights as far down as they would go. This was the result

Light still goes way too high, and the original beam pattern is completely changed. I want to try and replicate that light blocking coating on my hid's. Whether I coat it with something, or install some sort of cap over it, I'm not sure. If none of that works out, I will make some housings.

**nik12937** · 12-18-2014

If you really want to go with HID's in your fogs (which I recommend against for the mentioned glare issues), get a setup from vvme.com.

I ran a set of their 35w H1's (bulbs, ballasts, and relay harness) for over a year in my retrofits before getting some Morimoto's, and they never gave me any issues in spite of the price.

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