t24, id really like you to drive my car, its something you cant really describe, even at 400whp it was more fun then any automatic fwd car ive ever drive, the rowing through the gears just makes things intresting,
fwiw.
the civics, fwd talons, srt4s have seen 8s, 9s, on manual transmissions, sure the hp needed is higher, but the numbers arent over inflated by a crazy number, like 10% max so 700whp, ok 630whp on an auto .... but yes my 700whp manual will get beat in most cases by a 500whp auto grand prix
