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    i've had mine about 4 years and it's at 107k.. the only issue i have is a lifter tick. since the previous owner let the car go 5-7k between oil changes and im just about to get the trans rebuilt because it lost 4th gear.. other then that mines been great
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    When you hear of all the problems that CAN go wrong with a car is is pretty discouraging.

    Hey I love my 94 GTP, it has 194,000 miles and aside a little rear suspension noise and the PS pump noises I cannot complain.

    Ever notice that any problem someone has with a car, it is "known for that"?

    I also hear of how much of a pain it is to replace the timing belt. What, people expect THAT to be easy? I have never done a "fun" timing belt on any car.

    the only real problem I have is that I drive about 150 miles a week and the gas gauge seems to keep going down.

    You could be a Taurus owner and have the dooming prospect of the transmission wadding up the gear train and pooping it into the pan.

    You could be a Ford Contour/mystique owner and face the possibility of the car having every problem under the sun.

    After a couple months ownership, I really cannot complain about my GTP.
    I get kind of pissed when people are like, "Oh, the 3.4, good luck, mechanics hate those.." It is like "Well F-U buddy"

    When you insult someone's car, you are not insulting their car per se, but their choice as a customer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teardrop View Post
    the only real problem I have is that I drive about 150 miles a week and the gas gauge seems to keep going down.
    These W-body cars are known for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowDrift View Post
    These W-body cars are known for that.
    Smart ass.
    Not as big a problem as the fact that all gas stations make people pre-pay. ya mean I gotta PAY for my gas? My car is thristy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teardrop View Post
    Smart ass.
    Not as big a problem as the fact that all gas stations make people pre-pay. ya mean I gotta PAY for my gas? My car is thristy!
    Pre-pay must be regional or something. I don't pre-pay but I'm in Ohio. Consider youself lucky. New Jersey people aren't allowed to pump their gas. I'd NEVER allow someone else to pump my gas.

    In regards to the topic, though from the original poster, several have mentioned all the valid points. These are older cars, some have issues, others don't. Just because I have to fix something on an 11 year old car with +120,000 miles on it doesn't mean I think it's crap. Heck, if all new cars were perfect, then there would never be a need for a warranty, so even the new ones aren't without defect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teardrop View Post
    You could be a Taurus owner and have the dooming prospect of the transmission wadding up the gear train and pooping it into the pan.
    I have a taurus, the car is good. My last one, the trans went at 140k.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teardrop View Post
    You could be a Ford Contour/mystique owner and face the possibility of the car having every problem under the sun.
    LOL! i had a mystique, holy **** ive never spent so much money repairing basically everything, then the motor took a poopie

    My car, the real only major thing i replaced was the transmission. It lost 4th, i could have fixed it on the cheap but i really wanted a tep trans with upgrades, i even tried killing the old trans (when it was still in the car) i couldn't do it, i beat it for 4 months. Oh and replacing the lifters (127k) when i added the m90. My car now has 150k and going strong. My high compression L36 has seen 15* of knock on the dyno and street more than "just once"
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    instead of complaining, i'll list what problems i've experienced with my 155xxx mile 2000 grand prix. i'll list what i've done to fix those issues to help others out.

    1. ignition key getting stuck in ignition
    1a. fixed with some zip ties after i tired of using a screwdriver to take the key out everytime i used the car
    2. taillights and brake lights had no power but the cal light still activated
    2a. fixed by replacing faulty hazard button
    3. rear passenger side window stopped working
    3a. fixed by replacing regulator due to the original cable wore through the plastic. imho- the factory should have used a pulley instead of just wrapping the cable around a piece of nylon/plastic
    4. intermittent stalling P0102 code tripped
    4a. fixed by replacing the maf twice since the replacement maf's were bad too!
    5. driver side window only rolls down
    5a. metered out wires- reversed voltage with test leads to roll window back up- conclusion- replace switch (looking for used switch)
    6. heater blows cold
    6a. not fixed yet... replaced heater core and heater hoses something else is still clogged. ***update 10pm cst- heater fixed. the return on the engine was also clogged http://www.grandprixforums.net/heater-core-41629.html
    7. wheel bearing noise
    7a. replaced driver side wheel bearing
    Last edited by randybill; 02-28-2011 at 10:58 PM. Reason: update
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