This "change" blows

**matt5112** · 11-17-2009

Originally Posted by SlowM90

Local 798 Union its a BIG Pipeline Union. They pushed us to vote for Obama and I asked them that my money didn't go to him...Now thanks to him we are losing jobs! There was a HUGE job in Alaska coming up I was going to beable to make around 20K a month (and before you call BS do some searching! thats nothing compared to what welders make!!!) but now he is trying to pull that job out from under us!

Mind pulling a link or some keywords to search for? Not that I don't trust you, I just want to see how this thing is being played out.

I tried and ended up with some obscure religion vs obama sh*t. "The bible is right because it says its right"

? You can't quote yourself when attempting to prove you're correct.

**SlowM90** · 11-17-2009

Originally Posted by matt5112

Mind pulling a link or some keywords to search for? Not that I don't trust you, I just want to see how this thing is being played out.

I tried and ended up with some obscure religion vs obama sh*t. "The bible is right because it says its right"

? You can't quote yourself when attempting to prove you're correct.

ummm.....huh? Proof on what? The leaders calling him There Son?! Or where I work? where I work website is Home - Pipeliners Local 798 The whole "son" thing Gadhafi calls Obama his “son,” hopes that he will remain president for life – osmoothie

EDIT: And this is the wages we can make http://www.local798.org/online/templ...ringes2009.pdf most jobs you work 7days a week 12-16hrs a day. If your lucky you get on 6days 12-16hrs a week. You also get 42.50 per day for pier diem. Unless your a welder you get more for using your truck. There is High Scale and Low Scale.

**matt5112** · 11-17-2009

but now he is trying to pull that job out from under us!

Link for that part =D

**SlowM90** · 11-17-2009

Originally Posted by matt5112

Link for that part =D

There is no link. We was told in our bluelight its a mag. we get about all the upcoming jobs and that job was to start Feb 2010....now they are backing out of it because he is not signing off on it like he said. It should be on the site too.

**matt5112** · 11-17-2009

Ah true. Still a complete failure on his part.

On a much less serious note: Mayor of london said no more bendy busses, didn't happen for a while and Top gear continued to harass him about it and I'm not too sure how that one went down in the end...

Point being, it was a simple idea, order up some normal busses, sell the old ones. They seem to be taxed enough to support that or putting the old ones back into service.

**16MustangVet** · 11-17-2009

Way old issue but I still call Obamas birhtcertificate BOGUS. If its legit why hide it.

Also about the pipeline thing, Ive got friends that work on the pipeline running south from Canada through Minnesota and North Dakota the Company is based out of Clearbrook Minnesota but the name keeps changing with buy outs and take overs. Either way them guys are making a ton esp if you own your own truck and are a welder. So I dont think anything M90 said is far fetched.

**gtpinsc** · 11-17-2009

george bush was in office for 8 yrs and completely f*cked alot of sh*t up... how can obama fix all of this in less than a year... give him a chance... yes more than likely sh*t will never be fixed with our nations problems... but the man only been in office barely a year.

**AZGXP** · 11-17-2009

Originally Posted by gtpinsc

how can obama fix all of this in less than a year... give him a chance... yes more than likely sh*t will never be fixed with our nations problems... but the man only been in office barely a year.

#1 Obama promised us that he would fix the economy(which has gotten worse), be out of Iraq, focus on Afghanistan (still hasn't happened) and have a "transparent" government.....all of which were lies

#2 I have to disagree with "yes more likely sh*t will never be fixed with our nations problems" as I still believe in the United States of America.

#3 I voted for McCain, so Obama is the fault of you (tell the truth, you voted for him) and all the other idiots who voted for him.

I can complain about him all I want to, and I don't have to give him a chance. The Democrats never gave Bush (I believe he messed up some things too, like a lack of fiscal conservatism)a chance from day 1, so I don't have to give Obama a chance. The Constitution of the United States protects me from my government and I swore an Oath to protect it!!

**gtpinsc** · 11-17-2009

actually i have never voted and never will, but i still have my right to an opinion.

**matt5112** · 11-17-2009

I'll never vote in an american election, I'm sticking to Canada.

You should have to write a test that requires you to write down the names of the canidates on your ballet and the party they are associated with in order to vote.

**SlowM90** · 11-17-2009

Well its hard for him to fix the USA when he is NEVER IN IT!

**gtpinsc** · 11-17-2009

alot of our problems dont come from overseas? and its not just obama thats working to "fix the problem" our government is much bigger than just one man.

**1998xGTP** · 11-17-2009

Lol you guys should sit in on some economics classes and American History classes that aren't taught in the good ol' USA where everything is right all the time.

Whoever said Obama is a fascist you are retarded straight up. How can he be both a commie and a fascist? The political pendulum has been swung to the right for far to long and you guys are so close to fascism it's not even funny, I could tell you things about both bush's, reagan, Nixon etc that you wouldn't believe because that "just doesn't happen here".

Get your heads out of your asses and all the people that say "I voted Mccain... So I R BETTER THEN YOU, YOU GUYS FAWKED UP NOT ME" which probably means you voted Bush in both times right? So who effed up now? He's attempting to fix what Bush did wrong for your country let him have his time, it hasn't even been one year this isn't a slap on a bandaid problem this is open heart surgery has to be done delicately and slowly.

**matt5112** · 11-17-2009

Originally Posted by 1998xGTP

Lol you guys should sit in on some economics classes and American History classes that aren't taught in the good ol' USA where everything is right all the time.

Whoever said Obama is a fascist you are retarded straight up. How can he be both a commie and a fascist? The political pendulum has been swung to the right for far to long and you guys are so close to fascism it's not even funny, I could tell you things about both bush's, reagan, Nixon etc that you wouldn't believe because that "just doesn't happen here".

Get your heads out of your asses and all the people that say "I voted Mccain... So I R BETTER THEN YOU, YOU GUYS FAWKED UP NOT ME" which probably means you voted Bush in both times right? So who effed up now? He's attempting to fix what Bush did wrong for your country let him have his time, it hasn't even been one year this isn't a slap on a bandaid problem this is open heart surgery has to be done delicately and slowly.

I have talked to quite a few people as they're learning american history in the deep south... boy is it ****ed up down there.

Your comments are being quoted for truth and because your avatar fits this perfectly.

**1998xGTP** · 11-17-2009

Originally Posted by matt5112

I have talked to quite a few people as they're learning american history in the deep south... boy is it ****ed up down there.

Your comments are being quoted for truth and because your avatar fits this perfectly.

Yeah I love all the intelligent comments that people like to post around here

But at the same time it makes me wonder how much money I could make off some of the people here in a couple of years being their psych

**matt5112** · 11-17-2009

Originally Posted by 1998xGTP

Yeah I love all the intelligent comments that people like to post around here

But at the same time it makes me wonder how much money I could make off some of the people here in a couple of years being their psych

The hardcores never get help from anything other than the jar of whisky.

**1998xGTP** · 11-17-2009

Originally Posted by matt5112

The hardcores never get help from anything other than the jar of whisky.

Lol don't need to help them to make money just listen and nod

**matt5112** · 11-17-2009

They say easy money isn't safe money.

**BwolfGT** · 11-18-2009

Originally Posted by 1998xGTP

you guys are so close to fascism it's not even funny

What makes you say that?

**1998xGTP** · 11-18-2009

Originally Posted by BwolfGT

What makes you say that?

Do you really think you people are making the choices? Do you really think they care what you have to think/say? Of course not as long as you are willing to pay your taxes and are happy with the low standards of living they will continue to exploit and do whatever they please. If you had any say in gov't why is there a need for presidential veto? If the things the public cared about were done the way that they were supposed to there would be no need, now you can argue and say that things slip through but they shouldn't because you guys elect all these different politicians and reps to do exactly that represent you as a whole... He is there to represent you and get things done for the good of the public right or wrong?