Thread: Can I delete traction control in the pcm file?

I know.. strange question. I was dorking around in the blue turd yesterday and decided to just floor it from a dead stop. Of course it didn't hook but I didn't care. When I got home I noticed on the scan log that I saw a solid 13-15 degrees of KR on just on the launch (wheels were spinning). Then it hooked and I went on with my day. No other real KR when I go wide open, just on the launch.

Now. The interior is gone except for a driver and passenger seat. Center console gone, everything. So that means the traction control button is gone. Is that KR that I got from launching caused by traction control? My low trac light didn't come on either (is that because the button is gone?). Nothing else was knocking around, just the tires spinning.

I have since put the traction button back but I didn't have time to test it again while its turned off.

I know i could just pull the ABS fuse but that's not what I'm trying to accomplish. I'm assuming there some table in the bin (DHP) that is for torque management? I wasn't sure what/where to change it.

Any ideas?

iirc ive seen some thing in my 98 regal file. it may have been tt too. no idea where it was tho, trans file is my guess.

just looked in TT, in fuel, looks like it kills the injectors.

Torque management is what gave you the kr

Originally Posted by SgtMarshal

is that a good thing? or can torque management be safely disabled to reduce the kr?

Yes, most tuners get rid of all the torque management settings or lower it so reduce the KR.

I just can't remember where in the bin I need to change/delete the settings.

Hmm so the traction on/off wouldn't have anything to do with it? I know normally if you spin the tires the car would pull timing. But since I didn't have the on/off switch does that disable traction control? I didn't see any low track or any other idiot lights came up and it didn't pull any timing.

So back to the torque management.. anything specifically in there I can look for? I don't have my laptop with me so I'll dork around with it when I get home.

tm is in the tranny file.

from the Webracin DHP tuning guide:

In the CALIBRATION DATA > FUEL > TORQUE MGMT folder: - Torque Abuse A/F - change it to 11.7
- Torque Abuse Differential Score A/F - change it to 11.7
- Traction Control Desired A/F - change all cells to 11.7
- Torque Abuse Drive Injector Disable - change it to 0
- Torque Differential Score Injector Disable - change it to 0 - Traction Disable Injectors - change all cells to 0
- Disable All Injectors High MPH - change all cells to 255 - Disable 1 Injector High MPH - change it to 255
- Disable 2 Injector High MPH - change it to 255
- High RPM PN Fuel Cutoff:
High Threshold: change it to 4005 RPM Low Threshold: change it to 4000 RPM
- High RPM Rev Fuel Cutoff:
High Threshold: change it to 3505 RPM
Low Threshold: change it to 3500 RPM - High RPM Fuel Cutoff:
High Threshold: change it to 7005 RPM
Low Threshold: change it to 7000 RPM
In the CALIBRATION DATA > SPARK > TORQUE MGMT folder: - Torque Abuse Spark - change it to 0
- Traction Spark Retard:
TCSMode1- changeitto0 TCSMode2- changeitto0 TCSMode3- changeitto0 TCSMode4- changeitto1 TCSMode5- changeitto2 TCSMode6- changeitto3 TCSMode7- changeitto4
- Traction Extra Spark Retard: change all cells to 0
- Torque Differential Score Retard - change it to 4
- Torque Abuse Speed Enable - leave at stock setting
-Torque Abuse Throttle Enable - leave at stock setting
-Torque Abuse RPM Enable - leave at stock setting
-Torque Abuse Time Enable - leave at stock setting
-Torque Abuse Spark Retard - leave at stock setting
-Torque Abuse Differential Score MPH Enable - leave at stock setting

Originally Posted by mguzzo

from the Webracin DHP tuning guide:

In the CALIBRATION DATA > FUEL > TORQUE MGMT folder: - Torque Abuse A/F - change it to 11.7
- Torque Abuse Differential Score A/F - change it to 11.7
- Traction Control Desired A/F - change all cells to 11.7
- Torque Abuse Drive Injector Disable - change it to 0
- Torque Differential Score Injector Disable - change it to 0 - Traction Disable Injectors - change all cells to 0
- Disable All Injectors High MPH - change all cells to 255 - Disable 1 Injector High MPH - change it to 255
- Disable 2 Injector High MPH - change it to 255
- High RPM PN Fuel Cutoff:
High Threshold: change it to 4005 RPM Low Threshold: change it to 4000 RPM
- High RPM Rev Fuel Cutoff:
High Threshold: change it to 3505 RPM
Low Threshold: change it to 3500 RPM - High RPM Fuel Cutoff:
High Threshold: change it to 7005 RPM
Low Threshold: change it to 7000 RPM
In the CALIBRATION DATA > SPARK > TORQUE MGMT folder: - Torque Abuse Spark - change it to 0
- Traction Spark Retard:
TCSMode1- changeitto0 TCSMode2- changeitto0 TCSMode3- changeitto0 TCSMode4- changeitto1 TCSMode5- changeitto2 TCSMode6- changeitto3 TCSMode7- changeitto4
- Traction Extra Spark Retard: change all cells to 0
- Torque Differential Score Retard - change it to 4
- Torque Abuse Speed Enable - leave at stock setting
-Torque Abuse Throttle Enable - leave at stock setting
-Torque Abuse RPM Enable - leave at stock setting
-Torque Abuse Time Enable - leave at stock setting
-Torque Abuse Spark Retard - leave at stock setting
-Torque Abuse Differential Score MPH Enable - leave at stock setting

Thanks man. That's what I was looking for. Guess I'll fire up the lappy386 tonight and change some stuff .

Well I disabled the above that Mguzzo posted but still is happening. I went to the track today to get a couple full passes but it didn't go well. Here's a screen shot of the launch/KR.

I know my a/f (EGR) is super rich and that's fine. I'll deal with that later. I just fixed an exhaust leak on the header and it spiked lean and didn't compensate for it. On the burnout I got about 13-14 degrees of KR still. I was going to change the plugs (random misfires) but couldn't find my gapper anywhere.

Any other ideas? I know I'm missing something.. somewhere.

you got a lot of misfires, all the kr is at low rpms too. stops at 4200. whats up with the misfires? you sure you got the plug wires on right. its esy enough to mix two up and it will run pretty good.

They're on right. I had another set of plugs at home but didn't put them in. I haven't scanned the car since I posted this.

I ended up fixing it. DOHCZ34(chris) changed a bunch of settings that I forgot to change. Torque management, copying the good fuel spark tables to the bad/mean, etc. Just a few other things. Loaded that file up and changed the plugs when I got home and did a nice launch with zero KR. Seems to be fixed now. The misfires went down a lot too after the plugs but there's still a few. The wires are old and I just had them in the garage. I'll pick up another cheap set this week and see what it does.

It's also rich as FFF. 9.5 a/f FTW (not really). I got it up to high 10's now. Hopefully next Sunday will net me mid 12's. My 2nd run today I went 14.5@ 99 with a junk 60'.