You ought to know better than try to school me. LMAO~~~~~ The Olds engine was a 403, and it wasn't lame, I assure you- I have built about 50 or so, and let me be very clear, they'd b!tchslap amy POS 400 of any year, especially a '74 with 57 horsepower, or a '75 with 42 and a breadbox cat. Fact of the matter is, everything went to hell in the showrooms after '72 as a result of CAFE and other nonsense, and even better fact is new LS engines will sh!t all over any of the outdated platforms we (you) are arguing about. Now let the man build his Firebird and leave the stupid, Fugly '74 formy beak out of this.Nothin' but love, by the way.