Thread: Feds Demanded Death of Pontiac to Secure GM Bailout

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...m-bailout.html

seriously?

http://www.grandprixforums.net/showthread.php?t=83793

http://www.grandprixforums.net/showthread.php?t=83767

Sorry Bio I only look at this forum a couple times a day and don't live on here. thought it might be an interesting read. If you want to remove this thread go ahead.

nah. just bustin your balls. i don't do anything anymore.

I'm going to start a petition to bring Pontiac back.

GRANDPRIXFORLYFE!

I would sign it in a heart beat. I want the goats back.

Originally Posted by ericspecullaas

I would sign it in a heart beat. I want the goats back.

Oh im dead seeious

+1

Pontiac was not making money and had not been making money for years. How hard is that to understand. Keeping Pontiac around would have mean the death of even more of GM or even all of GM.

Originally Posted by stealthee

Pontiac was not making money and had not been making money for years. How hard is that to understand. Keeping Pontiac around would have mean the death of even more of GM or even all of GM.

just a freshened up G6 and another Oprah campaign would put Pontiac back in the black lol

wasn't Pontiac dead way way before the GM bail out?


and who f ing cares!

Scott I care. Pontiac was gm's tuning development center. Most of there cars were nothing more than chevys dressed up and there engines tuned for more power. Hell even there suspension were better. So answer me this scott who is now doing all the tuning in gm these days.

Originally Posted by ericspecullaas

Scott I care. Pontiac was gm's tuning development center. Most of there cars were nothing more than chevys dressed up and there engines tuned for more power. Hell even there suspension were better. So answer me this scott who is now doing all the tuning in gm these days.

Engines weren't tuned for more power. A T/A made the same power as a Camaro SS. A Grand Prix GTP made the same power as a Monte Carlo SS. Suspension was the same. The only thing Pontiac was different in was extra body cladding. Even the "widetrack" stuff is laughable.

Chevy would be the performance part of GM now. it mostly has been if you ask me over the years. back in the day all gm cars had their own line of engines, a you couldn't swap parts from any of them. all different brands. it wasn't till they all started to use the chevy engines that all the cool stuff started for them. hell the late 70's and early 80's t/a had a olds engine in. and it sucked balls big time, one gut less pos.

Pontiac didnt make any thing real special till maybe the 80's. and most of their cars were middle of the road comfort cars. not sports cars.

yeah, like 170 HP lol if that.

Come on guys the GTO's, Trans Am's / Firebirds of the 60's and 70's were some serious muscle. The G6's were super hot for a while and the Grand Prixs and Bonneville's of the late 90's up were some successful well selling very nice cars. Its a shame GM couldn't sell a few sporty mid sized Pontiacs in Chevy or GMC dealerships somehow...

Originally Posted by tms8582

Come on guys the GTO's, Trans Am's / Firebirds of the 60's and 70's were some serious muscle. The G6's were super hot for a while and the Grand Prixs and Bonneville's of the late 90's up were some successful well selling very nice cars. Its a shame GM couldn't sell a few sporty mid sized Pontiacs in Chevy or GMC dealerships somehow...

back in the 60's and 70's each car had its own engine. most of them over a 318 made decent power.

my 70 formula 400 had a 350 HP 400 in it. stock rating.

once you get to that G6 its a Chevy engine under the hood, it was the 80's when they all lost their own engines and used just Chevy engines.

kinda makes sense, why make 4 gm brands of cars and have different engines, saves a lot of money being the Chevy engine was by far the best one.

Originally Posted by Scottydoggs

back in the 60's and 70's each car had its own engine. most of them over a 318 made decent power.

my 70 formula 400 had a 350 HP 400 in it. stock rating.

once you get to that G6 its a Chevy engine under the hood, it was the 80's when they all lost their own engines and used just Chevy engines.

kinda makes sense, why make 4 gm brands of cars and have different engines, saves a lot of money being the Chevy engine was by far the best one.

I hear ya but I really didn't Care about sharing engines the sport styling was attractive to me. My Dad drove a couple SSEI bonnies I've owned a couple vibes and Grand Prixs and always liked Pontiacs. Life goes on though. lol

They did sell Pontiacs in Chevy dealerships, as Malibus and Monte Carlos. GM cut every cost they could and Pontiac was still losing money.