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  1. #1 Shopping for a "new" car. Seeking input/suggestions. 
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    I'll try to keep this as brief as possible. I don't really want to sink anymore money into my current GTP. It has 177k miles on the original motor, trans and s/c, every single body panel has a sizable dent/rust on it (neither front door opens all the way because they're catching the fenders), and the driver side rocker panel has COMPLETELY rusted through (which was the kiss of death for me). Needless to say, I feel dumping any amount of money to keep this thing going (and it currently needs a lot of things to be reliable/safe, including a COMPLETE suspension overhaul) is throwing money down the drain at this point. SO, I desperately need another car, BUT.....I just got laid off my job of 17 years.......AGAIN.....so funds are very limited. That's why I applied, and luckily got approved for a Citi Dividends card with $0 annual fee, 0% interest for 18 months and a $6k limit, so my goal is to put the purchase of the new car on the card if possible (dealer should be easy, obviously harder with a private seller unless they're willing to take PayPal). This way, I have 18 months of interest free payments, during which time, I can hopefully land a decent paying job. So I'm shopping for another car, but am having some trouble finding one that fits all my current needs. My budget is $5kish (might go a bit higher for the right car, but don't want to max out a brand new card right away). I need something that is:

    A. At least an '01, or newer (would prefer my new car not be older than the car it's replacing)
    B. Has some room inside (either a midsized+ with trunk space, or a wagon/hatch) because I will be doing a lot of junkyarding with it.
    C. Gets as good MPG or better than the GTP (for the same reason as above).
    D. Reliable (I understand this will be an older car, and things will break, but the less often they're known for doing so, the better).
    E. Relatively cheap/easy to fix/find parts for.
    F. At least SOMEWHAT decent looking. I know you can't get all the above into a jaw-dropping body style, but I at least want something I don't mind looking at everyday.

    I know, I know. It's a pretty tall order to cram all this into one car, let alone one that's around $5k, but there's got to be SOMETHING out there that will work. Of course, my first preference is another '01 GTP Special Ed, but they're hard to come by period, let alone in clean condition and low mileage. So I thought about an '03/'04 Pontiac Vibe (yes, I kinda don't mind how they look), but from what I've found, they're a bit more expensive for the year than I anticipated. Otherwise, everything else fit the bill. I've been tossing around the idea of possibly an '04/'05 Saab 9-3 or 9-5. Found a few nearby that are priced pretty damn cheap for the year/miles, but I'm just worried about cost of maintenance/parts with those. The top contender at the moment is the Mazda Protege5. I will most likely be taking a look at this one shortly:

    2003 MAZDA PROTEGE 5 AUTOMATIC LEATHER NO RUST CLEAN IN AND OUT

    I was hoping for under 100k miles, but we'll see what condition it's in. I don't know too terribly much about Mazdas of this era. I know there were some crank walk issues for certain years of a certain Mazda motor, but I don't recall which. Having talked to a few people about them already, they're supposed to be pretty reliable.

    Anyway, any input on that car, or any other suggestions are more than welcome and appreciated.
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    My sister had one of those! It was oddly insanely reliable. She never gave it an oil change..maybe once or twice in the several years she had it. She drove the **** out of it, and didn't take care of it at all..and it refused to give up. Last time I seen it, it sounded like a helicopter. She sold it to someone she knew and it's still running like a boss to this day.

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    hmm another GTP?
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    My dad had a 03 Protege that they bought off the lot in 2004ish, thing was a beast, never really had any problem with it, great gas mileage around 33-34 freeway but he had the 5 speed manual sedan.

    For that car its a ford in a mazda'a body, the engine is a 2.0 from a ford focus and has tons of FoMoCo markings all over it.

    If you go that route, make sure the timing belt has been done, they are suppose to be done at 90,000 miles. My dad sold his just last year with like 85k, so we didnt have to do and bought a 2012 mazda instead.

    Other than that they are just normal maintence and good all around cars. $4200 seems like a good deal with how clean it is and the new tires. We were only able to get $5000 for ours with alot less miles and new tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sLpGPGT View Post
    hmm another GTP?
    he is looking for a "good" used car. think he is done with GP's for a while
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    idk how you feel about maximas but my cousin has one and he bought his at 85k and its over 200k now. he does alot of highway. Still running strong and no major issues.
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    Maximas...my brother in law as well as my buddy has one and they have around 170k or so and no major work has been done. Very reliable cars.
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    If it is a maxima make sure it has the 3.0 VQ engine. Very reliable my boss drives one that has never been maintained the car is in crap shape but with 277k miles the engine runs.
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    Thanks for the input, guys (and gal)



    Quote Originally Posted by sLpGPGT View Post
    hmm another GTP?
    Already covered...

    Quote Originally Posted by RareGMFan View Post
    Of course, my first preference is another '01 GTP Special Ed, but they're hard to come by period, let alone in clean condition and low mileage.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fraschy View Post
    My sister had one of those! It was oddly insanely reliable. She never gave it an oil change..maybe once or twice in the several years she had it. She drove the **** out of it, and didn't take care of it at all..and it refused to give up. Last time I seen it, it sounded like a helicopter. She sold it to someone she knew and it's still running like a boss to this day.
    That's good to hear! I'm hearing a lot of positive reviews on reliability. *Note to self: NEVER buy a car from Fraschy's sister!*



    Quote Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch View Post
    My dad had a 03 Protege that they bought off the lot in 2004ish, thing was a beast, never really had any problem with it, great gas mileage around 33-34 freeway but he had the 5 speed manual sedan.

    For that car its a ford in a mazda'a body, the engine is a 2.0 from a ford focus and has tons of FoMoCo markings all over it.
    I knew it was a Ford motor, but from what I read, it's the FS motor which Wiki states was only used in the '93 - '97 Ford Probe? Doesn't list anything about the Focus.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch View Post
    If you go that route, make sure the timing belt has been done, they are suppose to be done at 90,000 miles. Other than that they are just normal maintence and good all around cars. $4200 seems like a good deal with how clean it is and the new tires. We were only able to get $5000 for ours with alot less miles and new tires.
    Yeah, they're surprisingly cheap for what seems like a decent, reliable car. I think most people (myself included until recently) forget this car exists. The only things I've found to be common on these cars are the belts (obviously more maintenance than an issue of they go bad), coils, dirty/bad EGR (causes rough idle), motor mounts and stabilizer bar endlinks. Also have to watch out for rust, especially behind the rear wheels on the fender. Other than that, I really can't find anything bad about them other than a handful of oil and coolant leak complaints (anticipating this with any 10+ year old car, though).


    Quote Originally Posted by atj8 View Post
    idk how you feel about maximas but my cousin has one and he bought his at 85k and its over 200k now. he does alot of highway. Still running strong and no major issues.
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    Maximas...my brother in law as well as my buddy has one and they have around 170k or so and no major work has been done. Very reliable cars.
    Quote Originally Posted by buickman104 View Post
    If it is a maxima make sure it has the 3.0 VQ engine. Very reliable my boss drives one that has never been maintained the car is in crap shape but with 277k miles the engine runs.
    I actually looked into getting a Maxima and wouldn't mind one. Decent looking car, roomy, a bit of power, and can get one fairly loaded with options. The only problem is they're a bit pricey around me.
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    Don't forget about taxes and registration fees. $$$

    sorry bout the job loss, i lost one about 8 years ago because of a corporate buyout and the facility i was at was shut down
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    Honda bro

    really, there slow but they require little maintenance, and they're really well built
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    Haha! My sister has an awesome car now, she actually does oil changes in this one! :P
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    ^ lancer tell her go big or go home aka EVO
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedGrid View Post
    MazdaSpeed3 07-09

    MazdaSpeed6 05-07


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    SRT4 (Any Year)

    Acura TL Type-S 07-08

    Nissan Altima SE-R 05-06

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    Not much help bro. His budget is ~5k.
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    u can find a acura TL for 5 6k, not the 04 or 03+ ones ovviously but there decently quick and pretty nice lookin, not to sure about reliabilty tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil98gt View Post
    Not much help bro. His budget is ~5k.
    Lmao I was just about to point that out pretty sure none of those your buying for 5k
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedGrid View Post
    MazdaSpeed3 07-09

    MazdaSpeed6 05-07


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    Acura TL Type-S 07-08

    Nissan Altima SE-R 05-06

    Honda Accord Coupe V6 03-07

    Pontiac G8 GT (Any Year)

    Ford Fusion Sport 10-12





    You might want to try comprehending what the OP wrote before forming words on the keyboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDCOMPG View Post
    Lmao I was just about to point that out pretty sure none of those your buying for 5k
    Yeah LOL 5k would be a nice down payment on any of those...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedGrid View Post
    MazdaSpeed3 07-09

    MazdaSpeed6 05-07


    Dodge Caliber
    SRT4 (Any Year)

    Acura TL Type-S 07-08

    Nissan Altima SE-R 05-06

    Honda Accord Coupe V6 03-07

    Pontiac G8 GT (Any Year)

    Ford Fusion Sport 10-12









    Quote Originally Posted by txslow6 View Post
    You might want to try comprehending what the OP wrote before forming words on the keyboard.
    Quote Originally Posted by Neil98gt View Post
    Not much help bro. His budget is ~5k.
    Best part is it's all in bold, large fonts, as if to say "hold on, hold on, guys. I got this. Can't believe you people think this is so hard. Here's a whole LIST of cars that will work..." .....yeah....for 2 or 3 of the 6 requirements I have listed. If it was that easy to find a car that fit the bill, I wouldn't have started a thread looking for suggestions.



    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    Don't forget about taxes and registration fees. $$$
    I know. Whenever I negotiate, I always talk in out-the-door prices. I figure even if it's a bit over $5k in asking price, I can negotiate it down to under, and the rest will be for any other associated fees.



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    sorry bout the job loss, i lost one about 8 years ago because of a corporate buyout and the facility i was at was shut down
    Thanks, man. I'm hoping something better comes out of this, because frankly, after 17 years of retail, I'm just really burnt out from dealing with the ignorance, rudeness, cheapness and ineptitude of the mass public. In fact, my 2nd to last day, I had to chase someone down in the parking lot trying to steal from us. Good times.


    Anyhow, still taking input and suggestions, but at this point, the Portege5 is the front runner. One of my buddies texted me yesterday to say he talked with his Mazda tech who told him those cars are very reliable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDCOMPG View Post
    ^ lancer tell her go big or go home aka EVO
    Nah, it wasn't necesarry for her. The GTS was good enough! The Evo was nearly twice as much anyways..and she had to have a car THAT DAY. :P

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