cars that should have been built from the factory

[BBluelandyacht]

ok so this isnt gonna be a "grand prix with 3.4 pulley and supporting mods" kinda thread but more realistic "what if" cars.

i have a few ideas on what GM should have built:
05+ bonneville GXP compG 5.3 v8 and tap shift
04+ grand prix 3.8 na AWD trans from aztek. not crazy HP but give a good run on the auto cross. trans has same bolt pattern i checked
04+ grand prix with 6speed from G6
G8 with aluminum engine block instead of iron block v8
park avenue ultra with L32 RWD = beastly roadmaster

comment on my ideas or post your own

[dpzelenak]

i want gm to make another v6 turbo, like a 3.5 with a turbo
and a 60 degree not a 90

[Slick2500]

No the 97+ gps should have come from the factory with a 6 speed too.
GM should have made the GPs like the GPX prototype.
There should have been a l67 version of the 3.8 in the Camaro and Firbird.

[IAGXP]

I think they need to rework a camaro/cts coupe platform into a buick with a turboed direct injection 3.6L v6, vavoom new Grand National and a forced induction LS3 for a GNX option

[J GTP]

I think they need to rework a camaro/cts coupe platform into a buick with a turboed direct injection 3.6L v6, vavoom new Grand National and a forced induction LS3 for a GNX option

Hell yes, and put them in this concept IMO.

[redlinepontiac]

yay alpha platform?

[sic6]

The G8 has an aluminum block , the ls2. And the 2012 regal gs is turbo as well.

[matt5112]

should have left the damned intercooler on the motor....

[Lsick7]

Fieros should have been built from the factory. A 140 hp v6 was pathetic. The sole reason most enthusiasts like I would agree on was the fact GM didn't want it to outperform the corvette. It was entirely evident of this cause when GM killed off the Fiero after 88 and before the 90 concept could be produced.


1990 Fiero. The standard iron duke 4 cyl was replaced with a 190 horsepower quad 4. And the GT was a 3.4 dohc that made over 200 hp. It's also been said a turbo Buick v6 was seen in it at test tracks.

[dpzelenak]

the new buick regal comes with a turbo buts it a 4 cyl..the same motor that the colbalt has. 2.2L eco-tech with a turbo

[Bio248]

thats awesome looking.

[sportred04]

a 2 door 04+ with a 6 speed.

[zx7r4u2nv]

That fiero is sweet looking. Must say i prefer the black Monte Carlo sitting beside it.

[Odi]

That fiero is sweet looking. Must say i prefer the black Monte Carlo sitting beside it.

u mean that epic rare grand prix 2+2?

[Bio248]

u mean that epic rare grand prix 2+2?

pretty much.

[gtcoup]

gp coup w/ t tops

[Big Dave]

Fine... Yuck, but fine... Alternate time lines and all that...

The 90 Fiero was delayed to a 91 release due to a redesign of the cooling system so the increased capacity could cool the first gen 3800sc motor that powered the GT... An AWD version was released in 96, but the model died in 98 due to a safety regulation jammed down our throats by a senator in an attempt to distract the public from the ongoing investigation linking them to murdering their spouse...

The Grand Prix, redesigned in 97, was released in 3 trim levels... The base powered by the L36, a GT powered by the L67, but the big news was the turbo GTE... The 280hp/300tq turbo, like all other models could be had with either a 6 speed manual, or a 4+3 automatic using a next gen design from the gear reduction package on the 700r4...

The initial plan to base the next gen Grand Prix on a platform shared with the Buick Wildcat was scrapped in favor of the front wheel configuration to ensure the all wheel drive Grand Prix GTX would be cost effective...

The Buick Wildcat, released in 97, was based on a shortened B body platform... Power came from the venerable 4.3 turbo or a destroked 5 liter version of the generals new LS1... For 2000, the six was retired and a low pressure turbo was available for the v8... This gave the always fun but undeniably hefty Wildcat the boost in power it needed to go from family sleeper back to the drag strip... A rumored 2 door version never saw the light of day...

Ford was forced to kill the mustang in 96 due to continued mechanical faults and inferior performance driving buyers away from the brand... The apology, and an attempt to salvage fords heritage, came in the 97 Thunderbird... The 4.6 was reworked to produce 230hp/320tq, an important output boost for blue oval fans... Bigger news was the 260hp/330tq 5.4 offered in the LX... Either base or LX could be had with the sport pack which provided 17 inch alloys, and a breaking and suspension package... A 5 speed manual, or 4 speed auto was offered...

[MidnightBlue]

Pontiac Grand Prix 300 GPX

[boosting98]

Should of been able to purchase a 97+ in rwd.

[EJOUIE]

04+ grand prix 3.8 na AWD trans from aztek. not crazy HP but give a good run on the auto cross. trans has same bolt pattern i checked

GM sorta tried this. The main difference was they jammed an ls1 into the engine bay. The trans didn't hold up very well and the for the few passes it made it was right around what a GTP would do. Thus, the AWD was eating the engine power like a group of 20 high school senior guys stopping at the KFC buffet on the way back from spending a week camping and living off of ramen.